Scrap plans for yellow lines plead frustrated residents

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A RAIL company is set to pay for yellow lines throughout a village after its car park charges pushed commuters on to residential streets.

But residents in Radley near Abingdon are fighting the plans.

First Great Western spent £165,000 of Department for Transport cash extending the car park at Radley railway station earlier this year by 30 spaces, but also started charging £3 a day.

But villagers then complained to FGW that the charge pushed up to 20 commuters every day on the area’s narrow roads.

Now, they say, fewer people are using the car park than before it was expanded.

Lower Radley resident Graham Steinsberg said: “It is an accident waiting to happen. Sharp braking is already the order of the day in the village, which is a nuisance, but in icy conditions it will be only a matter of time until this nuisance turns into a serious accident.”

Now Oxfordshire County Council has pledged to create parking restrictions in the village, but villagers say they don’t want parking restrictions on residential roads.

They want FGW to stop charging for use of its car park.

Mr Steinsberg, 57, a chartered accountant, said: “We don’t want yellow lines appearing anywhere.

“If they were making tons of money out of the car park which allowed them to lower fares, it would be okay.”

But he said fewer people were now parking at the station than before charges were introduced: “The economic argument doesn’t stack up.”

County councillor for Radley Bob Johnston said: “There have been numerous meetings, and I have pushed as hard as I can but now it is down to FGW and officers at the county to decide what is to be done.”

Oxfordshire County Council spokesman Martin Crabtree said: “We will be looking at how parking restrictions could be effective in solving local parking issues and would expect to consult on proposals early in the new year.

“Depending on the outcome a scheme could be implemented in the spring.

“We would expect the cost of any scheme to be funded by the rail company.”

He said the solution would not involve parking permits.

First Great Western spokesman James Davis said the Department for Transport funding was for “commercial projects only”, so the company was obliged to charge for use of the car park.

Mr Steinsberg has now started a pressure group, Stop Clogging Radley with Parking (SCRAP), calling on FGW to scrap its car park charges.

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12:19pm Mon 2 Dec 13

colbart says...

On the bus route, especially the narrow sections it really does need something to stop the cars parking on the road/grass verges, if someone offers to pay for them, I don't think the council will refuse...Drivers get into a habit, if they get away with parking in places, to avoid paying any charges they will.. What do the residents fear, the end of their free parking, (Residents parking zones ), or the fear cars will move into side streets/residential areas. I can't see them affording Yellow Lines throughout Radley....
On the bus route, especially the narrow sections it really does need something to stop the cars parking on the road/grass verges, if someone offers to pay for them, I don't think the council will refuse...Drivers get into a habit, if they get away with parking in places, to avoid paying any charges they will.. What do the residents fear, the end of their free parking, (Residents parking zones ), or the fear cars will move into side streets/residential areas. I can't see them affording Yellow Lines throughout Radley.... colbart

12:28pm Mon 2 Dec 13

alu355 says...

Would be good to know why residents are against yellow lines. Lack of foresight by the planners to not realise that this would happen. £3 a day doesn't sound like much but on top of a £5000 a year train fare to London you can understand why people are trying to avoid it.
Would be good to know why residents are against yellow lines. Lack of foresight by the planners to not realise that this would happen. £3 a day doesn't sound like much but on top of a £5000 a year train fare to London you can understand why people are trying to avoid it. alu355

12:31pm Mon 2 Dec 13

Gunslinger says...

Some streets around Didcot station have parking restrictions for a short period during the middle of the day. This deters all-day commuters while maintaining access for residents.
However the whole station parking thing is surely a unjustifiable money making racket for operators like FGW. While £3 might be reasonable for a journey to London, it is evidently excessive for a trip to say Oxford or Didcot and simply deters use of the train for local journeys.
Some streets around Didcot station have parking restrictions for a short period during the middle of the day. This deters all-day commuters while maintaining access for residents. However the whole station parking thing is surely a unjustifiable money making racket for operators like FGW. While £3 might be reasonable for a journey to London, it is evidently excessive for a trip to say Oxford or Didcot and simply deters use of the train for local journeys. Gunslinger

12:57pm Mon 2 Dec 13

Andrew:Oxford says...

Careful what you wish for...

If commuters are discouraged from using Radley, there is a risk that the services will be cut back.

The line between Didcot and Oxford (along with Oxford Station) is a major bottleneck on the route between the South and the Midlands. There would be a clear benefit to the network if a train weren't to slow down, stop and accelerate away at Radley...
Careful what you wish for... If commuters are discouraged from using Radley, there is a risk that the services will be cut back. The line between Didcot and Oxford (along with Oxford Station) is a major bottleneck on the route between the South and the Midlands. There would be a clear benefit to the network if a train weren't to slow down, stop and accelerate away at Radley... Andrew:Oxford

1:37pm Mon 2 Dec 13

yabbadabbadoo256 says...

"Sneak onto Radley's Roads"? last time I checked all car drivers paid Road Fund license, this gives them the right to use their vehicles on public roads in the UK and park legally where they can, be this in a Street in Radley, without parking restrictions, or a Carpark in a station.

Legally there is no problem here
"Sneak onto Radley's Roads"? last time I checked all car drivers paid Road Fund license, this gives them the right to use their vehicles on public roads in the UK and park legally where they can, be this in a Street in Radley, without parking restrictions, or a Carpark in a station. Legally there is no problem here yabbadabbadoo256

2:43pm Mon 2 Dec 13

EMBOX2 says...

If FGW have to charge for the use of the car park, then fine - but make it a nominal charge of say 20p per day, and regular users can buy an annual pass for £20 or something.

Painting lines all over a village is not acceptable, nor is is a solution.
If FGW have to charge for the use of the car park, then fine - but make it a nominal charge of say 20p per day, and regular users can buy an annual pass for £20 or something. Painting lines all over a village is not acceptable, nor is is a solution. EMBOX2

3:22pm Mon 2 Dec 13

alu355 says...

EMBOX2 wrote:
If FGW have to charge for the use of the car park, then fine - but make it a nominal charge of say 20p per day, and regular users can buy an annual pass for £20 or something.

Painting lines all over a village is not acceptable, nor is is a solution.
20p a day will not cover the costs of collection, let along go towards paying for the car park. If there are more spaces than demand then they may as well have it free.
[quote][p][bold]EMBOX2[/bold] wrote: If FGW have to charge for the use of the car park, then fine - but make it a nominal charge of say 20p per day, and regular users can buy an annual pass for £20 or something. Painting lines all over a village is not acceptable, nor is is a solution.[/p][/quote]20p a day will not cover the costs of collection, let along go towards paying for the car park. If there are more spaces than demand then they may as well have it free. alu355

4:17pm Mon 2 Dec 13

West Oxon Webwatcher says...

yabbadabbadoo256 sxays that the road vehcile licence permits a car to parked klegally anywhere on the highway. His understanding of the law is at fault. The licence gives the driver only the right to "pass and repass", i.e. to drive on the road. Immediately a vehicle stops it is creating an obstruction and in theory could be chraged with obstruction. Obviously the police have to treat obstruction sensibly and only charge when an obstruction is real and not just a technical obnstruction.
The residents of Radley should have objected to the original proposal to increase the parking at Radley statioon when it was originally announced several years ogo because it was made ckear at the time that the funding was only being made available for "revenue generating investment". It is a bit late to complain now.
The suggestion of a one hour parking limit is a sensible one. Here at Hanborough and also at Charlbury a one hour ban between 11.00 am and 12 noon has been imposed on roads near the rail station that are residential roads and that works very well.
yabbadabbadoo256 sxays that the road vehcile licence permits a car to parked klegally anywhere on the highway. His understanding of the law is at fault. The licence gives the driver only the right to "pass and repass", i.e. to drive on the road. Immediately a vehicle stops it is creating an obstruction and in theory could be chraged with obstruction. Obviously the police have to treat obstruction sensibly and only charge when an obstruction is real and not just a technical obnstruction. The residents of Radley should have objected to the original proposal to increase the parking at Radley statioon when it was originally announced several years ogo because it was made ckear at the time that the funding was only being made available for "revenue generating investment". It is a bit late to complain now. The suggestion of a one hour parking limit is a sensible one. Here at Hanborough and also at Charlbury a one hour ban between 11.00 am and 12 noon has been imposed on roads near the rail station that are residential roads and that works very well. West Oxon Webwatcher

10:02am Tue 3 Dec 13

TonyH says...

Really WestOxWeb? So all cars parked in streets everywhere are causing an obstruction? Don't be silly - if you call the police and object to someone parking outside YOUR house, you'll be told anyone can park there (assuming no yellow lines!). The point about temp restrictions is valid, as someone said, that's what happens at Didcot.
Really WestOxWeb? So all cars parked in streets everywhere are causing an obstruction? Don't be silly - if you call the police and object to someone parking outside YOUR house, you'll be told anyone can park there (assuming no yellow lines!). The point about temp restrictions is valid, as someone said, that's what happens at Didcot. TonyH

10:35am Tue 3 Dec 13

TonyH says...

Rept says Dept of Transport paid for the car park extension, so that's our money then? And 'First' Great Western (should be renamed 'last' in my experience) are now collecting parking fees - would that be to repay DofT (= us) or are they perhaps keeping this nice addition to their profits?
Rept says Dept of Transport paid for the car park extension, so that's our money then? And 'First' Great Western (should be renamed 'last' in my experience) are now collecting parking fees - would that be to repay DofT (= us) or are they perhaps keeping this nice addition to their profits? TonyH

8:00am Thu 5 Dec 13

Bea2002 says...

I live in radley and welcome the roadside parking, it's slows down speeding motorists, the council have ignored plans for a traffic calming system along foxborough informing me there is no problem with speeding, try living here!
I live in radley and welcome the roadside parking, it's slows down speeding motorists, the council have ignored plans for a traffic calming system along foxborough informing me there is no problem with speeding, try living here! Bea2002

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