Car park turn for a sandwich cost family £60

The Oxford Times: Car park turn for a sandwich cost family £60 Car park turn for a sandwich cost family £60

A FAMILY are fuming after a sandwich cost them £60 because they used a private car park to turn around in.

Andy Howitt and his son Louis had stopped after football practice for a sandwich at Subway, in Manorsfield Road, Bicester.

After Louis, 11, jumped out of the car and went to place his order, dad Andy said he pulled into the car-park just around the corner, turned around, waited at the entrance for a few minutes until Louis returned to the car with his sandwich, then drove off.

But a month later on October 30, the family received a fine through the post for £140.

Mum Claire Howitt, of Main Street, Poundon, near Bicester, said: “He didn’t park there, he entered it and turned around and waited a minute. We rang and explained he didn’t park there, but they said it didn’t matter he wasn’t allowed in there.”

Initially, the family argued there was no warning sign, but said when they checked they found a “small sign”.

The family also contacted Subway, who told them not to pay, but she said she was not comfortable with that and was concerned there could be repercussions.

After arguing with The Parking Collection Service, which dealt with the fine, it was reduced to £60.

Mrs Howitt said: “We totally agree with parking restrictions because people do park willy-nilly where they like, but we only entered it and that’s unfair.”

Subway said it had no control over the car-park and no allocated spaces.

The Parking Collection Service was unavailable for comment.

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8:20pm Tue 10 Dec 13

phonoplug says...

Sorry to say, but there was no need to pay it. Its not issued from the council so is therefore simply a 'request for payment'. Just bin it. They can't do anything. They may threaten legal action but will never follow through as they could not win. They cannot affect your credit score with a CCJ. They just make it look as much like a parking ticket and official as possible but its not binding at all.
Sorry to say, but there was no need to pay it. Its not issued from the council so is therefore simply a 'request for payment'. Just bin it. They can't do anything. They may threaten legal action but will never follow through as they could not win. They cannot affect your credit score with a CCJ. They just make it look as much like a parking ticket and official as possible but its not binding at all. phonoplug

9:01pm Tue 10 Dec 13

jplummer01 says...

Received a letter from these guys back in September, ignored it, received a bigger fine, ignored it, got a warning from a "debt collection services, ignored it.

They can't do anything as stated - the letters are templates and sent out to make you look like you're in the wrong when in fact they go out to to 1000s of others in the same way, some gullible enough to pay for it.

Google these companies, there is major discussions on Money Saving Experts and BBC Watchdog.etc
Received a letter from these guys back in September, ignored it, received a bigger fine, ignored it, got a warning from a "debt collection services, ignored it. They can't do anything as stated - the letters are templates and sent out to make you look like you're in the wrong when in fact they go out to to 1000s of others in the same way, some gullible enough to pay for it. Google these companies, there is major discussions on Money Saving Experts and BBC Watchdog.etc jplummer01

9:34pm Tue 10 Dec 13

JanetJ says...

Don't pay - its not enforceable
Don't pay - its not enforceable JanetJ

9:56pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Alan350 says...

I ha
I ha Alan350

10:05pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Alan350 says...

I recently had a similar experience in September with a company called ParkingEye. I went to Homebase in Botley, stayed a little longer than anticipated and received a letter saying i'd been there over 2 hours and was being fined £60.00 if paid within 2 weeks or £100.00 if left any longer. I appealed against it and sent them a copy of my receipt. They rejected my appeal saying it did not meet their criteria. I emailed them asking what their criteria was - no reply to date. I actually tried to pay it on the 29th October, but apparently the payment was rejected as I have now receieved another letter saying I will be taken to court if the outstanding dept is not paid within 14 days. Have now sent them another letter. My advice, stay away from Homebase unless you only intend to be be there a few minutes or it could turn out to be the most expensive carpark in Oxford.
I recently had a similar experience in September with a company called ParkingEye. I went to Homebase in Botley, stayed a little longer than anticipated and received a letter saying i'd been there over 2 hours and was being fined £60.00 if paid within 2 weeks or £100.00 if left any longer. I appealed against it and sent them a copy of my receipt. They rejected my appeal saying it did not meet their criteria. I emailed them asking what their criteria was - no reply to date. I actually tried to pay it on the 29th October, but apparently the payment was rejected as I have now receieved another letter saying I will be taken to court if the outstanding dept is not paid within 14 days. Have now sent them another letter. My advice, stay away from Homebase unless you only intend to be be there a few minutes or it could turn out to be the most expensive carpark in Oxford. Alan350

12:29pm Wed 11 Dec 13

snert says...

This one behind Subway is notorious. A friend of mine parked in there. As he got out of his car he saw the sign to got back in and drove out. He received a fine. He stupidly paid. I've parked outside the entrance before on the road and sat in the car for about 10 minutes while waiting for the other half to get a Subway for us and a truck pulled up and tried to tell me that they wanted to tow my car away for illegally parking in their car park. I refused. They're not allowed to take a car with someone sat in it. I told them where to go. They got quite agressive. I stayed in my car, ignored them and they got even more agressive. Once my Subway arrived, I simply drove off.

Whoever runs that car park needs to take a serious look at the thugs they employ. Does anyone know who owns it and who employs the thugs?
This one behind Subway is notorious. A friend of mine parked in there. As he got out of his car he saw the sign to got back in and drove out. He received a fine. He stupidly paid. I've parked outside the entrance before on the road and sat in the car for about 10 minutes while waiting for the other half to get a Subway for us and a truck pulled up and tried to tell me that they wanted to tow my car away for illegally parking in their car park. I refused. They're not allowed to take a car with someone sat in it. I told them where to go. They got quite agressive. I stayed in my car, ignored them and they got even more agressive. Once my Subway arrived, I simply drove off. Whoever runs that car park needs to take a serious look at the thugs they employ. Does anyone know who owns it and who employs the thugs? snert

5:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

gree0115 says...

It's not a fine, it's an unenforceable invoice. Never pay them, ignore any correspondence and threats. Don't get into debate with them, their "appeals" processes are done in house and are not impartial, so they always fail.
It's not a fine, it's an unenforceable invoice. Never pay them, ignore any correspondence and threats. Don't get into debate with them, their "appeals" processes are done in house and are not impartial, so they always fail. gree0115

1:14pm Thu 12 Dec 13

ExiledinBristol says...

Best thing to do is ignore them completely. As others have said, they are completely unenforceable and will eventually go away. What annoys me is how the companies who employ these firms to patrol their car parks think it will be any good for their business. My wife took our son to a birthday party in an out of town McDonalds near us. The party was for longer than the 'allowed' parking time and EVERY parent got a fine. That was 15-20 families that will never go back there.
Best thing to do is ignore them completely. As others have said, they are completely unenforceable and will eventually go away. What annoys me is how the companies who employ these firms to patrol their car parks think it will be any good for their business. My wife took our son to a birthday party in an out of town McDonalds near us. The party was for longer than the 'allowed' parking time and EVERY parent got a fine. That was 15-20 families that will never go back there. ExiledinBristol

12:09pm Sun 15 Dec 13

lc1993 says...

I have also recieved a fine from this company... There is no visible sign saying you will get a fine until you enter the car park... Not happy with the print on the letter as some of it has been printed over told them not paying until I get a proper letter that was nearly 2 weeks ago and havent got it yet
I have also recieved a fine from this company... There is no visible sign saying you will get a fine until you enter the car park... Not happy with the print on the letter as some of it has been printed over told them not paying until I get a proper letter that was nearly 2 weeks ago and havent got it yet lc1993

10:41pm Sun 15 Dec 13

gree0115 says...

lc1993 wrote:
I have also recieved a fine from this company... There is no visible sign saying you will get a fine until you enter the car park... Not happy with the print on the letter as some of it has been printed over told them not paying until I get a proper letter that was nearly 2 weeks ago and havent got it yet
Ignore it, it's not a fine, it's an invoice dressed up to look like a local authority penalty charge notice. They will send threatening letters to try and intimidate you. Shred them, don't reply.
[quote][p][bold]lc1993[/bold] wrote: I have also recieved a fine from this company... There is no visible sign saying you will get a fine until you enter the car park... Not happy with the print on the letter as some of it has been printed over told them not paying until I get a proper letter that was nearly 2 weeks ago and havent got it yet[/p][/quote]Ignore it, it's not a fine, it's an invoice dressed up to look like a local authority penalty charge notice. They will send threatening letters to try and intimidate you. Shred them, don't reply. gree0115

10:45pm Sun 15 Dec 13

lc1993 says...

Thank you... I know a place they can shove their letters but wont say that on here... Its obviously a scam otherwise the signs will be outside the carpark not tucked out of sight inside the entrance hardly visible
Thank you... I know a place they can shove their letters but wont say that on here... Its obviously a scam otherwise the signs will be outside the carpark not tucked out of sight inside the entrance hardly visible lc1993

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