Trio fined for serving alcohol to under-18s

The Oxford Times: Trio fined for serving alcohol to under-18s Trio fined for serving alcohol to under-18s

THREE people have been fined for serving alcohol to under-18s after Thames Valley Police and West Oxfordshire District Council carried out a test purchasing operation.

On Friday, December 20, 12 licensed premises in the Witney area were visited by the neighbourhood police team along with licensing officers from the district council.

Two young people were involved and at each premises they attempted to purchase alcohol. Three served them.

In each case the member of staff involved was issued with a £90 fine. Of the three premises that failed the test, two were pubs and one was a supermarket.

The businesses involved have not been named.

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7:43pm Sat 28 Dec 13

East Oxford Web Watcher says...

Essentially it is wrong to fine the staff, it should be the owner or licence holder. The staff are usually on minimum wage and have no training. They are also under pressure from their bosses to make sales. Coupled with the fact that when they ask for ID they are often abused, without support from their boss, you cannot blame them for making a sale. If the penalty was a £1,000 fine for the owner/licensee we would kill this problem now. This is a case of shooting the messenger, And it is wrong.
Essentially it is wrong to fine the staff, it should be the owner or licence holder. The staff are usually on minimum wage and have no training. They are also under pressure from their bosses to make sales. Coupled with the fact that when they ask for ID they are often abused, without support from their boss, you cannot blame them for making a sale. If the penalty was a £1,000 fine for the owner/licensee we would kill this problem now. This is a case of shooting the messenger, And it is wrong. East Oxford Web Watcher
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11:35pm Sat 28 Dec 13

fishstew says...

East Oxford Web Watcher wrote:
Essentially it is wrong to fine the staff, it should be the owner or licence holder. The staff are usually on minimum wage and have no training. They are also under pressure from their bosses to make sales. Coupled with the fact that when they ask for ID they are often abused, without support from their boss, you cannot blame them for making a sale. If the penalty was a £1,000 fine for the owner/licensee we would kill this problem now. This is a case of shooting the messenger, And it is wrong.
when is the last time you worked in a supermarket? by law if you serve alcohol you need to be trained, even then it doesnt take a genius to see if someone is over 21 or 25 (Depending on the policy)
[quote][p][bold]East Oxford Web Watcher[/bold] wrote: Essentially it is wrong to fine the staff, it should be the owner or licence holder. The staff are usually on minimum wage and have no training. They are also under pressure from their bosses to make sales. Coupled with the fact that when they ask for ID they are often abused, without support from their boss, you cannot blame them for making a sale. If the penalty was a £1,000 fine for the owner/licensee we would kill this problem now. This is a case of shooting the messenger, And it is wrong.[/p][/quote]when is the last time you worked in a supermarket? by law if you serve alcohol you need to be trained, even then it doesnt take a genius to see if someone is over 21 or 25 (Depending on the policy) fishstew
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7:53am Sun 29 Dec 13

Sugarandcandy says...

To be honest I think the parents of the under 18's should also be fined as well as they are responsible for their children's actions! This country has a very sad habit of making parents take very litte responsibility for their children's behavior. In the same way parents are punished for children's truancy they should be punished for any wrong doing of their kids!
To be honest I think the parents of the under 18's should also be fined as well as they are responsible for their children's actions! This country has a very sad habit of making parents take very litte responsibility for their children's behavior. In the same way parents are punished for children's truancy they should be punished for any wrong doing of their kids! Sugarandcandy
  • Score: -85

12:00pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Manco1706 says...

I was present at one of these test purchasing operations a few years ago. The under-18 was over 6ft tall, and unshaven; I can see how the staff were fooled especially as the bar was very busy. The staff should have asked for ID but I can see how easily it is to catch them off their guard. When I used to see headlines about under-18s being served alcohol, I used to imagine 14-16 year olds trying to get drinks at a bar.
I was present at one of these test purchasing operations a few years ago. The under-18 was over 6ft tall, and unshaven; I can see how the staff were fooled especially as the bar was very busy. The staff should have asked for ID but I can see how easily it is to catch them off their guard. When I used to see headlines about under-18s being served alcohol, I used to imagine 14-16 year olds trying to get drinks at a bar. Manco1706
  • Score: -72

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