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Budget 2014: Osborne woos savers and pensioners

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    OSPREYSAINT 11:51am Wed 19 Mar 14

    Someone has superglued the Red Box, he can't budge it.

    Score: 8
    GRUMPY PARENT 11:54am Wed 19 Mar 14

    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!

    Score: 66
    OSPREYSAINT 11:56am Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!

    Keeps 'em off the streets though.

    Score: -36
    GRUMPY PARENT 11:58am Wed 19 Mar 14

    "A public competition will also be held to to design the "tails" side of the coin, which is expected to be introduced from 2017".

    Middle finger springs to mind!

    Score: 13
    yabbadabbadoo256 11:58am Wed 19 Mar 14

    Something for the working families would be nice Gideon and a bit more to encourage the workshy as well..

    Score: 20
    OSPREYSAINT 12:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Looking at the picture of the new pound coin I would say the first thing to do is change the date as it isn't coming into circulation until 2017. Perhaps a silhouette of Vladimir Putin if all goes to plan.

    Score: -6
    GRUMPY PARENT 12:03pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.

    Paid for by the tax payer have you any idea how much they pay for these courses and the bus fares to get their and back, No like Cameron you haven't a clue!

    Score: 19
    Outside of the Box 12:05pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Fags going up, Alcohol going up, Fuel going Food going up, the only coming down is our underwear so George Osborne can shaft us all.

    Score: 33
    GRUMPY PARENT 12:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Outside of the Box wrote…


    Fags going up, Alcohol going up, Fuel going Food going up, the only coming down is our underwear so George Osborne can shaft us all.

    That's funny :-)

    Score: 3
    OSPREYSAINT 12:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    Paid for by the tax payer have you any idea how much they pay for these courses and the bus fares to get their and back, No like Cameron you haven't a clue!

    Now that is as bad an insult as you could have made, as a Socialist to be likened to Cameron is as bad as it gets. I am a tax payer and if these courses are deemed by some to be useful then that's OK by me, it is a long time since my vote did any good, so I have to abide by the majority, who don't vote like me, to decide how my money is to be spent. I don't pay bus fare so I don't know how much it would be anyhow. you are probably correct, when it comes to politics I really am clueless and leave it those that know what they are talking about and are willing to serve their Country, some badly I cannot deny. Do you think we will have a coalition next time and would that be good or bad? The current incumbents would surprise me if they do anything sensible for the poor and needy, it isn't in their interest.

    Score: 3
    FoodCraft 12:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..

    Score: 15
    OSPREYSAINT 12:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Looking at the picture of the new pound coin I would say the first thing to do is change the date as it isn't coming into circulation until 2017. Perhaps a silhouette of Vladimir Putin if all goes to plan.

    Just to make sure that you know I was being silly, I am no revolutionary.

    Score: -6
    OSPREYSAINT 12:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..

    Gives a new meaning to take aways!

    Score: -4
    FoodCraft 12:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..
    Gives a new meaning to take aways!

    It does indeed!

    Chippys could lower the cost of food, pay a higher wage (as we used too) and actually compete with the other takeaways for change! Too many in our trade simply cannot sustain themselves having to pay out such an unjustified amount in VAT!

    Score: 0
    BoscVegas 12:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..

    any VAT reduction would be passed on to the customer so how is it any different? unless you are not planning to pass the saving on to your local customers and take an extra 20% for yourself.

    Score: 19
    white rabbit9 12:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Can't even tell the truth on here, GREAT! The truth really must hurt some people.

    Score: -2
    ekimnoslen 12:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    The rich will get wealthier and the poor even worse off.
    Why bother with another puerile budget

    Score: 21
    Nick Tessla 12:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..

    .....as do many other takeaways.

    Considering the stats about people being overweight or even obese it is hard to justify reducing VAT on fatty foods.

    Score: 5
    Andy2010 12:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    FoodCraft wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..
    Gives a new meaning to take aways!
    It does indeed!

    Chippys could lower the cost of food, pay a higher wage (as we used too) and actually compete with the other takeaways for change! Too many in our trade simply cannot sustain themselves having to pay out such an unjustified amount in VAT!

    To compete with other takeaways its quite simple. Adopt their opening hours.

    Most chippy's have limited opening times with no delivery and dont even sign up to things like Just eat

    Roll with the times or get left behind

    Score: 12
    white rabbit9 12:44pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
    ― George Orwell

    Score: -21
    Kim Gandy 12:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    I like the new £1 coin.

    Score: 9
    Andy2010 12:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.

    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning

    Score: 23
    shaggy1 12:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    we live from day to day, just another mad world shaggy1

    Score: 1
    Nick Tessla 12:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.

    Nice symbolism - multi coloured to reflect multi-culturism and the same number of sides as the stars on the EU flag.

    Looks designed to wear holes in pockets.

    They were saying on the news that it is a tribute to the queen as it is inspired by her threepenny bits --------------------
    --------------------
    --------------------
    -------------------s
    orry, I mean the threepenny bits that were in circulation when she came to the throne.

    Score: -10
    Kim Gandy 1:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    masterstroke, reference to king John and his unruly barons...

    Great idea supporting the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, something Liebour has sh@t all over - and the money to repair cathedrals that will be taking part in the WWI commemoration.

    Can you see Liebour celebrating our own culture this way... nope, they'd send the money to some far flung foreign regime or some daft made up local "minority" group.

    Not a fan of George Osborne or the Tories but I do like my money being spent on MY country. For a change.

    Score: 12
    OSPREYSAINT 1:04pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.

    I would like to own lots more of them, that isn't going to happen!

    Score: 4
    Nick Tessla 1:04pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    masterstroke, reference to king John and his unruly barons...

    Great idea supporting the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, something Liebour has sh@t all over - and the money to repair cathedrals that will be taking part in the WWI commemoration.

    Can you see Liebour celebrating our own culture this way... nope, they'd send the money to some far flung foreign regime or some daft made up local "minority" group.

    Not a fan of George Osborne or the Tories but I do like my money being spent on MY country. For a change.

    An awful lot of people from "minority" groups (your quote marks not mine) were brought In from far flung countries to fight for your country in WWI.

    Score: -2
    bigfella777 1:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.

    Score: -3
    Nick Tessla 1:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    An institute named on honour of Alan Turing. I heartily approve.

    Score: 27
    OSPREYSAINT 1:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    VAT on fuel for Air Ambulances and Inshore Rescue boat services dropped... new air ambulance for London I am all for that should have been done ages ago.

    Score: 27
    Kim Gandy 1:15pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.

    Score: 24
    Gypo.Joe 1:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    I smell bored bankster boys.

    Markets dead lads ?

    Score: -11
    OSPREYSAINT 1:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Penny off a pint of beer, now where can I find a local pub? Too late they have all been turned into Supermarkets, Takeaways or car parks.

    Score: 19
    Nick Tessla 1:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.

    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.

    Score: -12
    GoingGreen 1:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.

    Fuel is a privilege. Expect to pay more and more for it.

    Score: -22
    Nick Tessla 1:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Penny off a pint of beer, now where can I find a local pub? Too late they have all been turned into Supermarkets, Takeaways or car parks.

    They paved paradise And put up a parking lot

    Score: 6
    OSPREYSAINT 1:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Gypo.Joe wrote…


    I smell bored bankster boys.

    Markets dead lads ?

    That's an odd hobby, where do you go to do that?

    Score: 12
    Andy2010 1:28pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.

    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas

    Score: 14
    OSPREYSAINT 1:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas

    Pity they can't cap the hot air that we get on these threads! Have to find another fracking way to get it.

    Score: 9
    Nick Tessla 1:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas

    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.

    Score: 8
    Nick Tessla 1:37pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas
    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.

    Sorry I mean gas - not turning American, honest!!!!!!

    Score: 5
    OSPREYSAINT 1:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    white rabbit9 wrote…


    Can't even tell the truth on here, GREAT! The truth really must hurt some people.

    .. aint that just the truth?

    Score: 1
    bigbob123 1:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    This would not happen under a Dave Whelan government

    Score: -3
    OSPREYSAINT 1:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off.

    But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak.

    Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in.

    Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas
    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.
    Sorry I mean gas - not turning American, honest!!!!!!

    You were right first time, gas and fuel will cost more to import, from wherever it is sourced.

    Score: 8
    OSPREYSAINT 1:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    bigbob123 wrote…


    This would not happen under a Dave Whelan government

    Will he become a Wigan peer?

    Score: 6
    OSPREYSAINT 1:44pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.

    Flawed Genius perhaps, I liked a bit of boom, but as for bust...........

    Score: 1
    Villagecranberry 1:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Fags and Booze must go up, people are daring NHS by their reckless indulgences and becoming a drain hogging hospital wards. Great news, as for fuel, in a few years time people will be looking back and commenting that our daft generation were spending £4.00 a gallon of petrol to sit in traffic or crawl along at a snails pace wasting precious resources and time, when it is quicker by bicycle or walking.

    Score: 5
    jjlad2 1:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Andy2010 wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Kim Gandy wrote…

    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off. But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak. Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in. Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas
    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.
    Sorry I mean gas - not turning American, honest!!!!!!
    You were right first time, gas and fuel will cost more to import, from wherever it is sourced.

    It sure will, then we will see all the moaners on here again for high prices to pay, im talking those that against natual resources like Windfarms etc, I would love to have a small one in my Garden to supply all my needs, but hey ho, we are not that green as the Planning objected to it....???? would that be because the Govt lose revenue? a viscious circle me thinks.

    Score: -5
    OSPREYSAINT 2:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    As a working class Pensioner I did not expect to get anything out of a Tory Chancellor, I don't think I have been disappointed in being right. No doubt there may be nuances in the small print but I see no reason to Vote for him!

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 2:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    jjlad2 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Andy2010 wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Kim Gandy wrote…

    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off. But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak. Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in. Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas
    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.
    Sorry I mean gas - not turning American, honest!!!!!!
    You were right first time, gas and fuel will cost more to import, from wherever it is sourced.
    It sure will, then we will see all the moaners on here again for high prices to pay, im talking those that against natual resources like Windfarms etc, I would love to have a small one in my Garden to supply all my needs, but hey ho, we are not that green as the Planning objected to it....???? would that be because the Govt lose revenue? a viscious circle me thinks.

    We are still sitting on a "gold" mine, there are natural resources that could be used if there was effort to find ways of using it without destroying the ecology, i.e. coal.

    Score: 6
    BertSanders 2:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    All these jobs - its worrying

    Score: 7
    OSPREYSAINT 2:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    white rabbit9 wrote…


    “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
    ― George Orwell

    Liberty is the right to disagree without being executed.

    Score: 10
    whateverhappened 2:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    1 big ISA :)
    BIGGER jisa :)
    premium bonds up :)
    raise the 40% tax band :)
    start tax higher :)
    what is not to like..

    Score: 8
    good-gosh 2:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.

    Score: 15
    Nick Tessla 2:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    white rabbit9 wrote…


    “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
    ― George Orwell
    Liberty is the right to disagree without being executed.

    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose,
    And nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free,
    Feelin' good was easy, Lord, when Bobby sang the blues,
    And buddy, that was good enough for me,
    Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee.


    Come on - sing up!

    Score: -3
    smhinto 2:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.

    Score: 5
    Nick Tessla 2:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    smhinto wrote…


    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.

    Diddleys?

    Score: 5
    Beyond News Forum 2:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    All I heard was a load of fluster and pomp.

    Same old same old BSing around a budget that is not fit for purpose. I do not deny that growth is getting better, but living standards have been steadily on the decline while the elite are looked after.

    With a figure over a £1-trillion it does not take a rocket scientist to work out that that level of debt cannot be brought down due to interest alone.

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 2:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    smhinto wrote…


    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.

    How about a "Window Tax" on their caravans, Romany exempt.

    Score: -1
    Beyond News Forum 2:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    white rabbit9 wrote…


    “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
    ― George Orwell
    Liberty is the right to disagree without being executed.

    Rights are not just for humans... the government gets them to.
    ~ Me!

    Score: -1
    cosmick 2:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    LIBLABCON cheating and lies.

    Score: 4
    pauls55 2:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.

    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.

    Score: 11
    gilbertratchet 2:44pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.

    Not only that, but it makes "being on the dole" that little bit less attractive as a career choice.

    Score: -11
    PaulErith 2:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning

    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.

    Score: -12
    gilbertratchet 2:47pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..

    Why is it unfair? VAT is literally a Tax on the Value Added. The value that's added here is, it's been heated up.

    Score: 4
    Nick Tessla 2:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.

    Along with hoverboards , everyone dressed in silver jumpsuits, moon colonies and all meals in tablet form.

    Score: 8
    GRUMPY PARENT 2:53pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    jjlad2 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Andy2010 wrote…

    Nick Tessla wrote…

    Kim Gandy wrote…

    Fuel duty rise scrapped. Good, we are well ripped off. But I'd renationalise energy companies. Not that I believe in Labour style policies but I'd do it out of spite, then regulate them so hard their @rses would squeak. Trouble is now a lot of it comes from abroad and the EU would stick its oar in. Another reason for getting out of the EU.
    Er no, pulling out of the EU would do nothing to improve our situation re foreign sources of fuel. Our reduced influence would mean the exact opposite.
    If things get any worse with Russia expect to pay a LOT more for gas
    If things get much worse, the price of petrol will be the least of things to worry about.
    Sorry I mean gas - not turning American, honest!!!!!!
    You were right first time, gas and fuel will cost more to import, from wherever it is sourced.
    It sure will, then we will see all the moaners on here again for high prices to pay, im talking those that against natual resources like Windfarms etc, I would love to have a small one in my Garden to supply all my needs, but hey ho, we are not that green as the Planning objected to it....???? would that be because the Govt lose revenue? a viscious circle me thinks.
    We are still sitting on a "gold" mine, there are natural resources that could be used if there was effort to find ways of using it without destroying the ecology, i.e. coal.

    Does it even occur to you that the Government might be reserving our natural resources for when fuel really does become a problem and hard to find?!

    Score: 3
    white rabbit9 2:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    white rabbit9 wrote…


    Can't even tell the truth on here, GREAT! The truth really must hurt some people.
    .. aint that just the truth?

    Yeap! Why we sqwabble over pennies the controllers are planning world war 3, and this time they have plenty of nukes, for if they don't get there way Rothschilds ISRAEL will nuke all.

    Score: -14
    GoingGreen 2:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Deal with climate change or it will deal with you.

    Score: -6
    Thee Voice of Reason 3:01pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…

    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.

    He borrowed more as the deficit he inherited was far more.

    If I gave you a car that had repayments owing of £1000 per month you would have to cover the £1000 per month to keep the car. If you I gave you a car that was paid off it would cost you nothing per month.

    So as Osbourne inherited a massive deficit it had to be serviced from day one, unlike Mr Brown who didn't have to borrow much and but by the time he passed it on was borrowing at a level unseen since the war.

    Look at today, Labour didn't even let Ed Balls respond to the budget worried he might embarrass the party, thats how much faith they have in their own chancellor.

    Score: 7
    GRUMPY PARENT 3:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    gilbertratchet wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    Not only that, but it makes "being on the dole" that little bit less attractive as a career choice.

    Not everyone wants to be "on the dole" but some have no choice, and unfortunately for people in this country there will always be an element of unemployment. Are you honestly trying to tell me that there is a job for every single person in this country? I do so hope you lose your job in the not so distant future and we will then see if your attitude and opinions change. maybe then when you go to the job centre and they stop your money for 13 weeks lets see how long you can survive! Looked at the crime rate lately? People walking out of shops with trolleys of food etc. Get a grip blue boy.

    Score: 4
    PaulErith 3:11pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Nick Tessla wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    Along with hoverboards , everyone dressed in silver jumpsuits, moon colonies and all meals in tablet form.

    Ha Ha, I don't think hoverboards will be until at least 2018! ;)

    Seriously though, just look how over a short period of time how we have so many non cash payment methods. As I say, most shops and some pubs I pay by tapping my debit card on the reader. Oyster is another example. Then just standard chip and pin. Cash per se weighs your pocket down and is just a pain. If you wish it to be then even now, a cashless existence is almost possible. It's only a matter of time.

    Score: -6
    ThisYear 3:14pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!

    Or fraud

    Score: 10
    Hyper-Deactive 3:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.

    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?

    Score: 8
    fredaj 3:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.

    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.

    Score: 7
    GRUMPY PARENT 3:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Or fraud

    True, but prove that in a Court of Law, these guys went to Eton and have lots of silly looking pound coins in their pockets so pretty immune to that charge!
    Glad you said it though I'm not that brave.
    Still Grumpy

    Score: 4
    Andy2010 3:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.

    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage

    Score: 5
    ThisYear 3:26pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    BoscVegas wrote…


    FoodCraft wrote…


    Maybe he’d like to remove the unfair 20% VAT on hot food that most chippys have to pay …..
    any VAT reduction would be passed on to the customer so how is it any different? unless you are not planning to pass the saving on to your local customers and take an extra 20% for yourself.

    VAT.. isn't that what the government puts on businesses who then pass it onto the customer?

    Score: 7
    ThisYear 3:29pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Nick Tessla wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    masterstroke, reference to king John and his unruly barons...

    Great idea supporting the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, something Liebour has sh@t all over - and the money to repair cathedrals that will be taking part in the WWI commemoration.

    Can you see Liebour celebrating our own culture this way... nope, they'd send the money to some far flung foreign regime or some daft made up local "minority" group.

    Not a fan of George Osborne or the Tories but I do like my money being spent on MY country. For a change.
    An awful lot of people from "minority" groups (your quote marks not mine) were brought In from far flung countries to fight for your country in WWI.

    Touché !

    Kim will probably reply.."No Im not"

    Score: 1
    Sigurd Hoberth 3:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Inheritance tax waived for emergency services personnel who "give their lives protecting us"

    WHAT?

    Unjustifiable.

    Score: -6
    OSPREYSAINT 3:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?

    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.

    Score: -2
    GRUMPY PARENT 3:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    fredaj wrote…


    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.
    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.

    Lets face it the actual ISA subject was irrelevant in this budget, this was purely to get the pensioners to back the Conservatives in the forthcoming elections as was the whole pension speech!

    Score: 4
    Hyper-Deactive 3:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.

    I don't work for DWP so have no idea how they are funded but the comment "Keeps them off the streets" just tells me that you look down on anybody who is unemployed and DO ASSUME that they are all scum.

    Please remember that a man that may be unemployed today could have been a CEO yesterday.

    You might see people outside job centres smoking and drinking and being chavvy but not everybody who is unemployed is like that.

    Score: 13
    ThisYear 3:39pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    smhinto wrote…


    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.

    Oh dear..."we going to be hit by a comet...lets blame the usual scapegoats"

    @smhinto

    Iv seen so stupid comments on this thread over 3 years!

    Yours is definitely in the top 5

    You are a 1st class idiot..sorry.

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 3:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage

    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.

    Score: 2
    ThisYear 3:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    smhinto wrote…


    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.
    How about a "Window Tax" on their caravans, Romany exempt.

    How about you stop trying too hard to be such a witty chappie?

    Score: 1
    ThisYear 3:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.

    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.

    Score: 1
    OSPREYSAINT 3:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GoingGreen wrote…


    Deal with climate change or it will deal with you.

    A bit selfish, I know, but I won't be on the planet long enough to worry about it. I do my bit but I fail to see how my minimal input will make any difference in the long run. I tend to discount the Climate Change myth, I do believe in the variations that Mother Nature throws at us. Oddly enough I see it as Gods will, not my fault.

    Score: 5
    ThisYear 3:49pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.
    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.
    Lets face it the actual ISA subject was irrelevant in this budget, this was purely to get the pensioners to back the Conservatives in the forthcoming elections as was the whole pension speech!

    They are frightened of the silver vote...come on old ones punch above your weight and give the heartless tory millionaire Ya-ya's a black eye come the general election...you know they are worth it!

    Score: 6
    GRUMPY PARENT 3:49pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.

    I personally know a 57 year old woman who is currently on a maths course yes maths at 57. If you can not do maths at 57 then there is just no hope. She was told that she had to attend this course or her benefits would stop. She gets a bus pass (paid for by the jobcentre) which she actually uses for doing her shopping and other things that she needs to do. As a course incentive she will actually receive a £40 food voucher when she completes this course. To sum up free bus pass, food voucher, cost of the course (£200 £300 at a guess check college rates) and still gets her benefits all paid for by the tax payer. While she is on this course she is classed as in education NOT UNEMPLOYED, when she completes that course English will be next. That is how they say unemployment is down. Sorry no it isn't Mr Cameron you are fudging the figures at the tax payers expense.

    Score: 5
    PaulErith 3:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.

    That sounds like the sort of conspiracy fearing comment that WR9 would come out with. Your finances are already computerised so it's no different. The bit of paper that has a 20 on it isn't actually worth anything per se. It just represents currency. And, you can only one of them out of the bank if the computer says you have that much so you're already 'at their mercy' as you put it. Having a card you tap or a piece of metal or paper with a number on it is no different really.

    Score: -1
    shytalk 3:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Vote UKIP

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 3:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I don't work for DWP so have no idea how they are funded but the comment "Keeps them off the streets" just tells me that you look down on anybody who is unemployed and DO ASSUME that they are all scum.

    Please remember that a man that may be unemployed today could have been a CEO yesterday.

    You might see people outside job centres smoking and drinking and being chavvy but not everybody who is unemployed is like that.

    Rubbish, it was just an off the cuff, flippant remark, which anyone with a minimal sense of humour would have recognised. I spent 48 and three quarter years in full and meaningful employment, was made redundant once for a very short period, retired on a Pension, that will just about see me through the remains on my life, it was paid for in full, and less than it should be, because of poor Interest Rates. I regard myself as one of the lucky ones. I have a lot of sympathy for those that struggle through unemployment which was no fault of there own. I do not label anyone that is unemployed, but can you agree with me, that some are unemployed because they can be and want to be, because they can survive on hand outs. The simple truth is that many are unemployed because there are no suitable jobs, not because they are unemployable. I am not to blame for their predicament.

    Score: 3
    Andy2010 3:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.

    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would

    Score: 7
    OSPREYSAINT 3:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    shytalk wrote…


    Vote UKIP

    Why?

    Score: -5
    BmthNewshound 4:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Another good budget for middle class pensioners - the Tories need their votes. The increase in ISA allowance and changes to private pensions will be of little benefit to most younger people who cannot afford to save and struggle to makes ends meet.
    .
    Good to see more help for businesses which should help create jobs and exports.
    .
    The Chancellors statement is only an overview to grab headlines. The devil is in the detail which is contained in the Treasury Budget documents.

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 4:04pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.
    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would

    "before Labour opened the floodgates?" Nothing to do with EU dictates then.
    What happened to the masses of Romanians and Bulgarians that were supposed to have swarmed in? I can't see any around here? If England is no longer to your liking you could always join many of expats in Spain e.t.c. I wonder who they are sponging off?

    Score: -6
    shytalk 4:04pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    bigbob123 wrote…


    This would not happen under a Dave Whelan government
    Will he become a Wigan peer?

    Are you sure you are not talking about Nigel Evans?

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 4:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.
    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.
    Lets face it the actual ISA subject was irrelevant in this budget, this was purely to get the pensioners to back the Conservatives in the forthcoming elections as was the whole pension speech!
    They are frightened of the silver vote...come on old ones punch above your weight and give the heartless tory millionaire Ya-ya's a black eye come the general election...you know they are worth it!

    Would love to but who do you suggest will look after my interests best?

    Score: -2
    OSPREYSAINT 4:09pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    shytalk wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    bigbob123 wrote…


    This would not happen under a Dave Whelan government
    Will he become a Wigan peer?
    Are you sure you are not talking about Nigel Evans?

    Why would I be talking about the MP for Ribble Valley with a dodgy reputation?

    Score: -3
    shy talk 4:11pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    shytalk wrote…


    Vote UKIP

    Somebody out there has highjacked SHYTALK. I did not post this comment and it has been reported.

    Score: 3
    OSPREYSAINT 4:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    smhinto wrote…


    What about imposing car parking fees for the 'Diddley's' as up to this date they can park in any Council car park for free and be immune from prosecution.
    .
    Unlike the normal populous who are always expected to pay their way.
    .
    Just a thought.
    How about a "Window Tax" on their caravans, Romany exempt.
    How about you stop trying too hard to be such a witty chappie?

    It isn't a criminal offence to my knowledge, ever told a joke?

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 4:14pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.

    Big brother? This thinking lark, painful isn't it?

    Score: -4
    carnmountyouknowitmakessense 4:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Be grateful Labour aren't running things, because if they were, they'd be ruining things...

    Score: 2
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:17pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I don't work for DWP so have no idea how they are funded but the comment "Keeps them off the streets" just tells me that you look down on anybody who is unemployed and DO ASSUME that they are all scum.

    Please remember that a man that may be unemployed today could have been a CEO yesterday.

    You might see people outside job centres smoking and drinking and being chavvy but not everybody who is unemployed is like that.
    Rubbish, it was just an off the cuff, flippant remark, which anyone with a minimal sense of humour would have recognised. I spent 48 and three quarter years in full and meaningful employment, was made redundant once for a very short period, retired on a Pension, that will just about see me through the remains on my life, it was paid for in full, and less than it should be, because of poor Interest Rates. I regard myself as one of the lucky ones. I have a lot of sympathy for those that struggle through unemployment which was no fault of there own. I do not label anyone that is unemployed, but can you agree with me, that some are unemployed because they can be and want to be, because they can survive on hand outs. The simple truth is that many are unemployed because there are no suitable jobs, not because they are unemployable. I am not to blame for their predicament.

    You really have no clue, "survive on handouts" some are on £117 every two weeks and have to buy food and pay towards bills that's before fags, beer and drugs that you seem to be referring to if your unemployed that's what you do. I am glad you have your pension to survive on and all your "handouts" as well ie Fuel allowance, (probably) blue badge, state pension, council tax benefit's, and all the other benefits Mr Osborne has just given you. Guess where your vote will be going!. I'm just happy that I live in the knowledge that I could buy and sell you in a heartbeat!
    Still Grumpy

    Score: 2
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:17pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I don't work for DWP so have no idea how they are funded but the comment "Keeps them off the streets" just tells me that you look down on anybody who is unemployed and DO ASSUME that they are all scum.

    Please remember that a man that may be unemployed today could have been a CEO yesterday.

    You might see people outside job centres smoking and drinking and being chavvy but not everybody who is unemployed is like that.
    Rubbish, it was just an off the cuff, flippant remark, which anyone with a minimal sense of humour would have recognised. I spent 48 and three quarter years in full and meaningful employment, was made redundant once for a very short period, retired on a Pension, that will just about see me through the remains on my life, it was paid for in full, and less than it should be, because of poor Interest Rates. I regard myself as one of the lucky ones. I have a lot of sympathy for those that struggle through unemployment which was no fault of there own. I do not label anyone that is unemployed, but can you agree with me, that some are unemployed because they can be and want to be, because they can survive on hand outs. The simple truth is that many are unemployed because there are no suitable jobs, not because they are unemployable. I am not to blame for their predicament.

    You really have no clue, "survive on handouts" some are on £117 every two weeks and have to buy food and pay towards bills that's before fags, beer and drugs that you seem to be referring to if your unemployed that's what you do. I am glad you have your pension to survive on and all your "handouts" as well ie Fuel allowance, (probably) blue badge, state pension, council tax benefit's, and all the other benefits Mr Osborne has just given you. Guess where your vote will be going!. I'm just happy that I live in the knowledge that I could buy and sell you in a heartbeat!
    Still Grumpy

    Score: 17
    ThisYear 4:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    PaulErith wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.
    That sounds like the sort of conspiracy fearing comment that WR9 would come out with. Your finances are already computerised so it's no different. The bit of paper that has a 20 on it isn't actually worth anything per se. It just represents currency. And, you can only one of them out of the bank if the computer says you have that much so you're already 'at their mercy' as you put it. Having a card you tap or a piece of metal or paper with a number on it is no different really.

    Is it not a conspiracy to think that with money controlled by computers that those controlling the computers will not control people?

    While people have money in their pockets they can pay for items, if the ATM breaks down or the bank has glitches..the case just recently...people will be able to use their hard currency to pay for food etc..

    Score: 3
    Andy2010 4:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.
    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would
    "before Labour opened the floodgates?" Nothing to do with EU dictates then.
    What happened to the masses of Romanians and Bulgarians that were supposed to have swarmed in? I can't see any around here? If England is no longer to your liking you could always join many of expats in Spain e.t.c. I wonder who they are sponging off?

    Take a trip down to Forster Square...theres plenty down there most days.

    Like I said before you got all confrontational I dont begrudge any immigrant coming to the UK, as after all why not with whats given to them. And this isnt about EU policies either. Just have a look at the policies in operation in France of indeed Spain as you put it. You cant claim anything like what can be claimed in the UK.

    Score: 7
    ThisYear 4:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.
    Big brother? This thinking lark, painful isn't it?

    Probably why you don't do it very often..especially when posting online!

    Score: 2
    adorable 4:21pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Outside of the Box wrote…


    Fags going up, Alcohol going up, Fuel going Food going up, the only coming down is our underwear so George Osborne can shaft us all.

    Pity State Pensions aren't going up in line with the price of food.

    Score: 7
    ThisYear 4:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.
    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.
    Lets face it the actual ISA subject was irrelevant in this budget, this was purely to get the pensioners to back the Conservatives in the forthcoming elections as was the whole pension speech!
    They are frightened of the silver vote...come on old ones punch above your weight and give the heartless tory millionaire Ya-ya's a black eye come the general election...you know they are worth it!
    Would love to but who do you suggest will look after my interests best?

    Yourself!

    Score: 5
    OSPREYSAINT 4:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I personally know a 57 year old woman who is currently on a maths course yes maths at 57. If you can not do maths at 57 then there is just no hope. She was told that she had to attend this course or her benefits would stop. She gets a bus pass (paid for by the jobcentre) which she actually uses for doing her shopping and other things that she needs to do. As a course incentive she will actually receive a £40 food voucher when she completes this course. To sum up free bus pass, food voucher, cost of the course (£200 £300 at a guess check college rates) and still gets her benefits all paid for by the tax payer. While she is on this course she is classed as in education NOT UNEMPLOYED, when she completes that course English will be next. That is how they say unemployment is down. Sorry no it isn't Mr Cameron you are fudging the figures at the tax payers expense.

    That's truly astonishing, but what do you offer as an alternative for this person and her like? You would prefer her to be inactive and an important statistic in a political argument? If nothing else this education seems better than nothing and it could be beneficial.

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 4:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I personally know a 57 year old woman who is currently on a maths course yes maths at 57. If you can not do maths at 57 then there is just no hope. She was told that she had to attend this course or her benefits would stop. She gets a bus pass (paid for by the jobcentre) which she actually uses for doing her shopping and other things that she needs to do. As a course incentive she will actually receive a £40 food voucher when she completes this course. To sum up free bus pass, food voucher, cost of the course (£200 £300 at a guess check college rates) and still gets her benefits all paid for by the tax payer. While she is on this course she is classed as in education NOT UNEMPLOYED, when she completes that course English will be next. That is how they say unemployment is down. Sorry no it isn't Mr Cameron you are fudging the figures at the tax payers expense.

    That's truly astonishing, but what do you offer as an alternative for this person and her like? You would prefer her to be inactive and an important statistic in a political argument? If nothing else this education seems better than nothing and it could be beneficial.

    Score: 0
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 4:24pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    good-gosh wrote…


    Re ISAs - it's not much good putting £15K a year in ISAs when the interest is so poor. May as well leave it in a regular saving account and pay the tax, but then be free to move it when the expected rates start increasing.
    You are just as free to move isa money (to another isa or to non-isa saving) as you are non-isa savings.
    Lets face it the actual ISA subject was irrelevant in this budget, this was purely to get the pensioners to back the Conservatives in the forthcoming elections as was the whole pension speech!
    They are frightened of the silver vote...come on old ones punch above your weight and give the heartless tory millionaire Ya-ya's a black eye come the general election...you know they are worth it!
    Would love to but who do you suggest will look after my interests best?
    Yourself!

    Good answer. Vote for me.

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 4:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT

    TOOOLD4IT.

    Score: -4
    adorable 4:25pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    As a working class Pensioner I did not expect to get anything out of a Tory Chancellor, I don't think I have been disappointed in being right. No doubt there may be nuances in the small print but I see no reason to Vote for him!

    As an 80 years old pensioner with no benefits I would like the State Pension to go up in line with inflation.

    Score: 11
    Andy2010 4:26pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.
    That sounds like the sort of conspiracy fearing comment that WR9 would come out with. Your finances are already computerised so it's no different. The bit of paper that has a 20 on it isn't actually worth anything per se. It just represents currency. And, you can only one of them out of the bank if the computer says you have that much so you're already 'at their mercy' as you put it. Having a card you tap or a piece of metal or paper with a number on it is no different really.
    Is it not a conspiracy to think that with money controlled by computers that those controlling the computers will not control people?

    While people have money in their pockets they can pay for items, if the ATM breaks down or the bank has glitches..the case just recently...people will be able to use their hard currency to pay for food etc..

    What case was this?

    You mean when Natwest had a glitch and there was uproar?

    On your thinking none of us would then use banks either and would just stash all our money at home under the mattress.

    Or do we draw money out of the ATM? What happens if that fails?

    Score: 3
    OSPREYSAINT 4:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.
    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would
    "before Labour opened the floodgates?" Nothing to do with EU dictates then.
    What happened to the masses of Romanians and Bulgarians that were supposed to have swarmed in? I can't see any around here? If England is no longer to your liking you could always join many of expats in Spain e.t.c. I wonder who they are sponging off?
    Take a trip down to Forster Square...theres plenty down there most days.

    Like I said before you got all confrontational I dont begrudge any immigrant coming to the UK, as after all why not with whats given to them. And this isnt about EU policies either. Just have a look at the policies in operation in France of indeed Spain as you put it. You cant claim anything like what can be claimed in the UK.

    I am not up with the niceties of living abroad, but I do know of expats that live in Spain but come back to the UK for treatment on the NHS!

    Score: 2
    Andy2010 4:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.
    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would
    "before Labour opened the floodgates?" Nothing to do with EU dictates then.
    What happened to the masses of Romanians and Bulgarians that were supposed to have swarmed in? I can't see any around here? If England is no longer to your liking you could always join many of expats in Spain e.t.c. I wonder who they are sponging off?
    Take a trip down to Forster Square...theres plenty down there most days.

    Like I said before you got all confrontational I dont begrudge any immigrant coming to the UK, as after all why not with whats given to them. And this isnt about EU policies either. Just have a look at the policies in operation in France of indeed Spain as you put it. You cant claim anything like what can be claimed in the UK.
    I am not up with the niceties of living abroad, but I do know of expats that live in Spain but come back to the UK for treatment on the NHS!

    And why shouldnt they when they have probably paid into the NHS all their lives and see people travelling from Pakistan to give birth at the BRI then scutter back over there without putting anything in

    Score: 8
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT

    You still MAD4IT bro

    Score: -1
    ThisYear 4:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    ThisYear wrote…


    PaulErith wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    Kim Gandy wrote…


    I like the new £1 coin.
    Me too although bet Vending Machine operators and Shopping trolley manufacturers are cursing this morning
    Surely by 2017 we should have evolved into a cashless society. A physical note or coin is outdated. With the 'contactless payment' becoming more and more common, I hardly ever have to use coins. It's so much easier to pay by card. We should be thinking about a plan to get rid of physical currrency.
    A cashless society would put us at the mercy of whoever controlled the computers..think about it.
    That sounds like the sort of conspiracy fearing comment that WR9 would come out with. Your finances are already computerised so it's no different. The bit of paper that has a 20 on it isn't actually worth anything per se. It just represents currency. And, you can only one of them out of the bank if the computer says you have that much so you're already 'at their mercy' as you put it. Having a card you tap or a piece of metal or paper with a number on it is no different really.
    Is it not a conspiracy to think that with money controlled by computers that those controlling the computers will not control people?

    While people have money in their pockets they can pay for items, if the ATM breaks down or the bank has glitches..the case just recently...people will be able to use their hard currency to pay for food etc..
    What case was this?

    You mean when Natwest had a glitch and there was uproar?

    On your thinking none of us would then use banks either and would just stash all our money at home under the mattress.

    Or do we draw money out of the ATM? What happens if that fails?

    Many do not use banks..many don't have the money to use them..many wouldn't if they didn't have to...many!

    There have been a few bank glitches in the last few years..google them

    I made mention of the ATM being faulty.

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 4:32pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Andy2010 wrote…


    pauls55 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Despite all the rhetoric the fact Osborne doesnt admit to is that he has borrowed more in four years than Labour did in thirteen, mainly to help all his Eton pals while food banks boom. In a few years time we'll all be talking about the mess the ConDems left us in.
    I would suggest you watch the Panorama special on Food banks from a couple of weeks ago.

    The demand for them isn't being being hungry. Its down to Government and local subsidies that can be gathered. not to mention the majority of the "customers" are immigrants (see Nu Labour) and the remaining are generally handouts not needed

    If you give something away for free people will naturally take advantage
    So you are saying you wouldn't accept anything offered to you? Never look a gift horse in the mouth I say. There have been immigrants since time immemorial, not all have been to our benefit, but a lot have become part of the whole.
    Well I personally circumstances remaining the same wouldn't visit a foodbank but there are plenty that do and don't really need to

    Its about priorities. Having internet, tv, smart phone, fags and beer are not priorities and all these things should only be bought after food , heat and shelter are paid for. Sadly we live in a world where food has taken a backseat and all foodbanks are doing is encouraging this.

    Remember the saying "Put food on the table"?

    I don't dispute we have always had immigrants but before Labour opened the floodgates immigration was on job demand not how much could be claimed for free. I don't blame the immigrants cause after all if you say lived in Romania in a hovel and had a chance to move to England, have a free house, benefits, schooling, healthcare and food...well why not , i certainly would
    "before Labour opened the floodgates?" Nothing to do with EU dictates then.
    What happened to the masses of Romanians and Bulgarians that were supposed to have swarmed in? I can't see any around here? If England is no longer to your liking you could always join many of expats in Spain e.t.c. I wonder who they are sponging off?
    Take a trip down to Forster Square...theres plenty down there most days.

    Like I said before you got all confrontational I dont begrudge any immigrant coming to the UK, as after all why not with whats given to them. And this isnt about EU policies either. Just have a look at the policies in operation in France of indeed Spain as you put it. You cant claim anything like what can be claimed in the UK.
    I am not up with the niceties of living abroad, but I do know of expats that live in Spain but come back to the UK for treatment on the NHS!
    And why shouldnt they when they have probably paid into the NHS all their lives and see people travelling from Pakistan to give birth at the BRI then scutter back over there without putting anything in

    I can't answer that, not right is it. Luckily I suspect there aren't that many.

    Score: -2
    Villagecranberry 4:32pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    adorable wrote…


    Outside of the Box wrote…


    Fags going up, Alcohol going up, Fuel going Food going up, the only coming down is our underwear so George Osborne can shaft us all.
    Pity State Pensions aren't going up in line with the price of food.

    Food is cheaper now than it ever was, go to Waitose in the evening, you can by a fresh chicken for about three pound and they are always reducing goods. Must be absolute bargain shopping in Lidl and Tesco when they reduce items. You can buy fresh veg and fruit at Bakers Arms for £1 a bowl, everything is cheap except the rubbish take away shops charging £15.99 for an unhealthy pizza or bucket greasy chicken when you could feed a family for days if you learnt how to cook. Ilford High Street has shops where you can buy 2 kilo of various pulses for £1.99, sack rice for a fiver, sack of onions two quid, sack spuds £3.99, pitta bread 5 packs for a pound! You just have to look instead of ordering from those glossy leaflets shoved through your door to get food by a gas guzzling smoking moped delivery rider.

    Eat healthy stay healthy and be less of a burden on the NHS.

    Score: 9
    OSPREYSAINT 4:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro

    More SADOLDGIT

    Score: 0
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT

    Half your age self commented pensioner MAD4IT

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 4:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Why do you assume that I assume that, actually I don't, well not all of them are, some would be out looking for work perhaps, others are too lazy to do so. I know nothing of the courses mentioned, is there no educational value in them, care to enlighten me on how they work and how they affect the unemployment figures and how they are funded.
    I don't work for DWP so have no idea how they are funded but the comment "Keeps them off the streets" just tells me that you look down on anybody who is unemployed and DO ASSUME that they are all scum.

    Please remember that a man that may be unemployed today could have been a CEO yesterday.

    You might see people outside job centres smoking and drinking and being chavvy but not everybody who is unemployed is like that.
    Rubbish, it was just an off the cuff, flippant remark, which anyone with a minimal sense of humour would have recognised. I spent 48 and three quarter years in full and meaningful employment, was made redundant once for a very short period, retired on a Pension, that will just about see me through the remains on my life, it was paid for in full, and less than it should be, because of poor Interest Rates. I regard myself as one of the lucky ones. I have a lot of sympathy for those that struggle through unemployment which was no fault of there own. I do not label anyone that is unemployed, but can you agree with me, that some are unemployed because they can be and want to be, because they can survive on hand outs. The simple truth is that many are unemployed because there are no suitable jobs, not because they are unemployable. I am not to blame for their predicament.
    You really have no clue, "survive on handouts" some are on £117 every two weeks and have to buy food and pay towards bills that's before fags, beer and drugs that you seem to be referring to if your unemployed that's what you do. I am glad you have your pension to survive on and all your "handouts" as well ie Fuel allowance, (probably) blue badge, state pension, council tax benefit's, and all the other benefits Mr Osborne has just given you. Guess where your vote will be going!. I'm just happy that I live in the knowledge that I could buy and sell you in a heartbeat!
    Still Grumpy

    Woah! mate I don't receive any hand outs, I don't claim any benefits, I pay full Council Tax, I don't drive a car, I vote Labour, if it is any of your business.
    Quote "have to buy food and pay towards bills that's before fags, beer and drugs that you seem to be referring to if your unemployed that's what you do" I don't recall saying any of that. If you are going to slag me off at least get your facts right.

    Score: 2
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT

    By the way do the staff at Hollins Park know you have a computer in your padded cell?
    I better ring them

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 4:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    adorable wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    As a working class Pensioner I did not expect to get anything out of a Tory Chancellor, I don't think I have been disappointed in being right. No doubt there may be nuances in the small print but I see no reason to Vote for him!
    As an 80 years old pensioner with no benefits I would like the State Pension to go up in line with inflation.

    You deserve better than that old feller.

    Score: 3
    OSPREYSAINT 4:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT
    Half your age self commented pensioner MAD4IT

    You are 33?

    Score: 1
    OSPREYSAINT 4:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT
    By the way do the staff at Hollins Park know you have a computer in your padded cell?
    I better ring them

    Haven't been in Warrington since 1961 and certainly not in an Institution.

    Score: 2
    MartinB58 4:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.

    Score: 3
    GRUMPY PARENT 4:55pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT
    By the way do the staff at Hollins Park know you have a computer in your padded cell?
    I better ring them
    Haven't been in Warrington since 1961 and certainly not in an Institution.

    You sure you've not been in this institution since 1961 but your "friend" that being your other personality, has just been lying to you! Look to your left and right what do you see? Padding! makes you wonder.

    Score: -1
    GRUMPY PARENT 5:03pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.

    Pensioner vote my friend it should be called the pensioner budget to get votes.

    Score: 1
    bd7 helper 5:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Waste of time just makin a fool of himself

    Score: 17
    Andy2010 5:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    http://longtermplan.
    org.uk/

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 5:13pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT = MAD4IT
    You still MAD4IT bro
    More SADOLDGIT
    By the way do the staff at Hollins Park know you have a computer in your padded cell?
    I better ring them
    Haven't been in Warrington since 1961 and certainly not in an Institution.
    You sure you've not been in this institution since 1961 but your "friend" that being your other personality, has just been lying to you! Look to your left and right what do you see? Padding! makes you wonder.

    Being Grumpy yourself looks like its you that needs some anger management. I may be old but certainly not certifiable, sorry to disappoint you. How did you know about Hollins Park, I had to Google it.

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 5:14pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.

    Spot on.

    Score: 3
    OSPREYSAINT 5:18pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.
    Pensioner vote my friend it should be called the pensioner budget to get votes.

    Won't get mine.

    Score: 3
    likewatchingbrazil 5:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    blah blah blah heard it all before, nothing changes, let's give the new boys a go.
    vote UKIP

    Score: 8
    stickmanny 5:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    likewatchingbrazil wrote…


    blah blah blah heard it all before, nothing changes, let's give the new boys a go.
    vote UKIP

    that's the worst idea in the entire history of ideas

    Score: -7
    collos25 6:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.

    Have you any idea he has had to borrow to give to the rich of this land if your a pensioner or someone who earns less than 30k a year your about to get shafted.

    Score: 5
    angry bradfordian 6:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Villagecranberry wrote…


    adorable wrote…


    Outside of the Box wrote…


    Fags going up, Alcohol going up, Fuel going Food going up, the only coming down is our underwear so George Osborne can shaft us all.
    Pity State Pensions aren't going up in line with the price of food.
    Food is cheaper now than it ever was, go to Waitose in the evening, you can by a fresh chicken for about three pound and they are always reducing goods. Must be absolute bargain shopping in Lidl and Tesco when they reduce items. You can buy fresh veg and fruit at Bakers Arms for £1 a bowl, everything is cheap except the rubbish take away shops charging £15.99 for an unhealthy pizza or bucket greasy chicken when you could feed a family for days if you learnt how to cook. Ilford High Street has shops where you can buy 2 kilo of various pulses for £1.99, sack rice for a fiver, sack of onions two quid, sack spuds £3.99, pitta bread 5 packs for a pound! You just have to look instead of ordering from those glossy leaflets shoved through your door to get food by a gas guzzling smoking moped delivery rider.

    Eat healthy stay healthy and be less of a burden on the NHS.

    Amazingly, the % of income the average household spends on food is 3 times less than it was in 1960. Now it isn't even the major item of expenditure. This is from the Guardian in December 2013:

    ....."The average British household spends £489 each week according to new data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) - £7.70 less than they did a year ago.
    The numbers, taken from a survey of over 5,000 households also show how that money is being spent. The largest single area of spending is housing, fuel and power (£68 per week), followed by transport (£64.10)."........

    After this come Recreation & Culture £61.50 and THEN food and non alcoholic drink at £56.80. So on average we spend more on leisure than we do feeding ourselves!

    Score: 2
    spanglishbull.uk 6:15pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Osprey Saint,
    I live in Spain.I lived and worked in England until I was 65 years old.I get NO Benefits from the U.K only my basic State pension.I do not return to the U.K. for any medical treatment.I get free medical here as I am an E.U. pensioner paying 10% towards my prescriptions.I am not entitled to any benefits from the Spanish system,which by the way I fully agree with,maybe the U.K could follow suit.You are quite correct,I know plenty of ex pats who return to the U.K. for medicals etc.claim Housing Benefit,Child Allowance,Care Allowance etc,etc,etc.Who is to blame? The G.P.s for one who know their patients live abroad but turn a blind eye to the fact.I know people who receive six months of Prescriptions ,sent by their families,why do the G.P.s do this?I know people with N.H.S dentists in the U.K. who actually ring up from Spain to book an appointment.Why do the Dentists allow this.I will tell you why,the Country is corrupt from top to bottom,that is why.Do not just blame immigration,look closer to home.

    Score: 7
    burner 6:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    WHO THE HELL ARE ALL THESE POSTERS ? NEVER HEARD OF ANY OF THEM BEFORE . . .. HAS THE SOUTH HI-JACKED OUR EAST LANCASHIRE NEWS NOW ? . . . . . OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A NATIONAL, AGENCY SITE . . . . . . . . . LAZY !!!

    Score: -6
    RollandSmoke 6:40pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.

    Score: -1
    OSPREYSAINT 6:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    spanglishbull.uk wrote…


    Osprey Saint,
    I live in Spain.I lived and worked in England until I was 65 years old.I get NO Benefits from the U.K only my basic State pension.I do not return to the U.K. for any medical treatment.I get free medical here as I am an E.U. pensioner paying 10% towards my prescriptions.I am not entitled to any benefits from the Spanish system,which by the way I fully agree with,maybe the U.K could follow suit.You are quite correct,I know plenty of ex pats who return to the U.K. for medicals etc.claim Housing Benefit,Child Allowance,Care Allowance etc,etc,etc.Who is to blame? The G.P.s for one who know their patients live abroad but turn a blind eye to the fact.I know people who receive six months of Prescriptions ,sent by their families,why do the G.P.s do this?I know people with N.H.S dentists in the U.K. who actually ring up from Spain to book an appointment.Why do the Dentists allow this.I will tell you why,the Country is corrupt from top to bottom,that is why.Do not just blame immigration,look closer to home.

    Thanks for making that clearer, I bought Travel Insurance when I travelled there recently because I heard that the Spanish were not honouring the Euro Health Insurance Card. Glad I did, but that's another story.

    Score: 1
    OSPREYSAINT 6:54pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.

    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?

    Score: 0
    Bantambhoy 6:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.
    Spot on.

    Every taxpayer will benefit! Are they not average workers?

    Score: -2
    fredaj 7:00pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.
    Spot on.

    The average family with a mortgage seems to be able to afford multiple cars, holidays, smart phones and piles of convenience food so don't tell me that they do not have money to save.

    It's all about choices and priorities.

    Score: 2
    fredaj 7:04pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.

    When was the last time you read a story about someone staving to death in the country?

    50 years ago?

    So stop writing nonsense.

    Score: 4
    Bantambhoy 7:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    collos25 wrote…


    bigfella777 wrote…


    George Osborne is a genius, this is how a country should be run. I hope we never go back to boom and bust again.
    Have you any idea he has had to borrow to give to the rich of this land if your a pensioner or someone who earns less than 30k a year your about to get shafted.

    I don't know where your coming from, I'm pensioner,,I earn less than £30k a year and I consider this a good budget for me! I will be paying less tax and will be able to earn more on my savings!

    Score: -3
    RollandSmoke 7:07pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?

    What would you suggest? I am not in any position to influence political decisions in any way other than by making my thoughts known. I cannot work due to health problems and no amount of financial blackmail to get me to work for a pittance is going to improve my health, if anything it worsens it. Between 2011-2012 10,600 people died within 6 weeks of being found fit for work by the government appointed assessors. After this they have refused to publish figures. Some may call this incompetence others may call it genocide but I would presume that as the previous government appointed the assessors figures will exist so as to compare to see whether it is the assessor at fault and not the government policies that explain these deaths?.

    Score: -4
    RollandSmoke 7:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    fredaj wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    When was the last time you read a story about someone staving to death in the country?

    50 years ago?

    So stop writing nonsense.

    Here's a couple from the past few months.
    http://www.theguardi
    an.com/society/2014/
    feb/28/man-starved-t
    o-death-after-benefi
    ts-cut
    And here's one from Shipley.
    http://www.mirror.co
    .uk/news/uk-news/glo
    ating-tories-dont-ca
    re-people-3022783

    Score: -3
    stickmanny 7:23pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    fredaj wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.
    Spot on.
    The average family with a mortgage seems to be able to afford multiple cars, holidays, smart phones and piles of convenience food so don't tell me that they do not have money to save.

    It's all about choices and priorities.

    Issue is that saving in this country is a rip-off, has been for generations. No wonder people don't bother. Those lucky enough to own a house will rely on that as their investment. it will stay this way until someone actually offers a decent deal to hold onto a pile of savings for 40 years, rather than the norm which is to take it all in fees leaving a pittance. if Gideon pulls it then hats off. I doubt it though.

    Score: 3
    boltonchap 7:39pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Love it. All of it.

    Score: 0
    boltonchap 7:45pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Where's BWFC71?

    Score: 1
    InTheKnowOk 8:12pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....

    Score: 2
    cromwell9 8:19pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Villagecranberry wrote…


    Fags and Booze must go up, people are daring NHS by their reckless indulgences and becoming a drain hogging hospital wards. Great news, as for fuel, in a few years time people will be looking back and commenting that our daft generation were spending £4.00 a gallon of petrol to sit in traffic or crawl along at a snails pace wasting precious resources and time, when it is quicker by bicycle or walking.

    Get a ELectric car ,
    I have one it never runs out of ELECTRIC.
    THE VAUXHALL AMPPERA

    Score: 0
    maxell 8:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    12 sided coin and about 12 mill to change all the slots the coin will fit into right down to super market trollies, it maybe harder to fake the coins but suspect the new slots would look for shape and weight rather that a picture and a finger up on the flip, and what about tossing a coin will that be as easy. Im off to the pub for a pint to save a penny. At least I can be assured that I will save money on a night out, I could save as much as 5p. I dispair.

    Score: -1
    RollandSmoke 8:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....

    So if you've got nothing you've cracked it? And if your getting £30,000 and upwards because you may be loosing more money than someone with nothing you are worse off? Do the nurses know you're using the computer?

    Score: -3
    Bantambhoy 8:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.

    I've said before that I think you need help, I am now quite happy for my taxes to help pay for you to relocate to Sevastopol. You might be happy there?

    Score: 3
    Bantambhoy 8:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    When was the last time you read a story about someone staving to death in the country?

    50 years ago?

    So stop writing nonsense.
    Here's a couple from the past few months.
    http://www.theguardi

    an.com/society/2014/

    feb/28/man-starved-t

    o-death-after-benefi

    ts-cut
    And here's one from Shipley.
    http://www.mirror.co

    .uk/news/uk-news/glo

    ating-tories-dont-ca

    re-people-3022783

    The Guardian, the Mirror, hmmmmm

    Score: 1
    Indigenous UK Pensioner. 8:36pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Who let all the norverners on ere today. I never new they could reed up there never mind right two.

    THAnK YoU

    Score: -18
    RollandSmoke 8:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I've said before that I think you need help, I am now quite happy for my taxes to help pay for you to relocate to Sevastopol. You might be happy there?

    That's very kind of you but I've lived here all my life and my family is here. I don't disagree that I could use some help as could millions like me up and down the country but one things for sure we wont get any from this government and there will be people like yourself laughing as we suffer. You're Scum Bhoy.

    Score: -14
    Bantambhoy 8:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?
    What would you suggest? I am not in any position to influence political decisions in any way other than by making my thoughts known. I cannot work due to health problems and no amount of financial blackmail to get me to work for a pittance is going to improve my health, if anything it worsens it. Between 2011-2012 10,600 people died within 6 weeks of being found fit for work by the government appointed assessors. After this they have refused to publish figures. Some may call this incompetence others may call it genocide but I would presume that as the previous government appointed the assessors figures will exist so as to compare to see whether it is the assessor at fault and not the government policies that explain these deaths?.

    All these 'facts' have been brought up in Parliament by your party demanding that they be debated as a matter of urgency? I don't think so. Your usual left wing drivel.

    Score: 10
    Bantambhoy 8:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I've said before that I think you need help, I am now quite happy for my taxes to help pay for you to relocate to Sevastopol. You might be happy there?
    That's very kind of you but I've lived here all my life and my family is here. I don't disagree that I could use some help as could millions like me up and down the country but one things for sure we wont get any from this government and there will be people like yourself laughing as we suffer. You're Scum Bhoy.

    Resorting to insults, typical.

    Score: 5
    ksmain 8:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    cromwell9 wrote…


    Villagecranberry wrote…


    Fags and Booze must go up, people are daring NHS by their reckless indulgences and becoming a drain hogging hospital wards. Great news, as for fuel, in a few years time people will be looking back and commenting that our daft generation were spending £4.00 a gallon of petrol to sit in traffic or crawl along at a snails pace wasting precious resources and time, when it is quicker by bicycle or walking.
    Get a ELectric car ,
    I have one it never runs out of ELECTRIC.
    THE VAUXHALL AMPPERA

    Ok 'Villagecranberry' - why not slap a heavier tax on food - so that fat people don't become a drain on NHS resources - I mean how much money is being wasted on Bariatric Surgery on people who can't control their weight? Or a massive tax on Plastic Surgery - to stop the strain on the NHS correcting those who do it for cosmetic lifestyle reasons coming back to the NHS when it goes wrong.

    I agree with the fags and booze - but there are many other drains on NHS Resources other than fags or booze.

    Score: 0
    RollandSmoke 8:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?
    What would you suggest? I am not in any position to influence political decisions in any way other than by making my thoughts known. I cannot work due to health problems and no amount of financial blackmail to get me to work for a pittance is going to improve my health, if anything it worsens it. Between 2011-2012 10,600 people died within 6 weeks of being found fit for work by the government appointed assessors. After this they have refused to publish figures. Some may call this incompetence others may call it genocide but I would presume that as the previous government appointed the assessors figures will exist so as to compare to see whether it is the assessor at fault and not the government policies that explain these deaths?.
    All these 'facts' have been brought up in Parliament by your party demanding that they be debated as a matter of urgency? I don't think so. Your usual left wing drivel.

    I don't have a party. I'm not stupid enough to believe that there is too much difference between them. We've had Thatcherite policies who ever's been the puppets fronting it. I'm a socialist. Can you remember what that means? If so could you explain it to the Labour party?

    Score: -15
    RollandSmoke 8:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    fredaj wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    When was the last time you read a story about someone staving to death in the country?

    50 years ago?

    So stop writing nonsense.
    Here's a couple from the past few months.
    http://www.theguardi


    an.com/society/2014/


    feb/28/man-starved-t


    o-death-after-benefi


    ts-cut
    And here's one from Shipley.
    http://www.mirror.co


    .uk/news/uk-news/glo


    ating-tories-dont-ca


    re-people-3022783
    The Guardian, the Mirror, hmmmmm

    Did the Daily Mail not cover it? How strange, it's not like them to align themselves to any dodgy ideologies is it?

    Score: -5
    RollandSmoke 8:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Indigenous UK Pensioner. wrote…


    Who let all the norverners on ere today. I never new they could reed up there never mind right two.

    THAnK YoU

    Some still can but steps are being taken to minimize the problem.

    Score: -5
    OSPREYSAINT 9:27pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    maxell wrote…


    12 sided coin and about 12 mill to change all the slots the coin will fit into right down to super market trollies, it maybe harder to fake the coins but suspect the new slots would look for shape and weight rather that a picture and a finger up on the flip, and what about tossing a coin will that be as easy. Im off to the pub for a pint to save a penny. At least I can be assured that I will save money on a night out, I could save as much as 5p. I dispair.

    It will create some employment anyway, someone will have to modify everything. I too despair mostly about the spelling on here tonight!

    Score: -2
    RollandSmoke 9:30pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I've said before that I think you need help, I am now quite happy for my taxes to help pay for you to relocate to Sevastopol. You might be happy there?
    That's very kind of you but I've lived here all my life and my family is here. I don't disagree that I could use some help as could millions like me up and down the country but one things for sure we wont get any from this government and there will be people like yourself laughing as we suffer. You're Scum Bhoy.
    Resorting to insults, typical.

    As a fellow Bradfordian with a little knowledge of the history of the place I find the fact that your user name associates you with the City insulting but there you go.

    Score: -5
    InTheKnowOk 9:33pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....
    So if you've got nothing you've cracked it? And if your getting £30,000 and upwards because you may be loosing more money than someone with nothing you are worse off? Do the nurses know you're using the computer?

    Of course you are better off, the less you have the more benefits you get, which includes free eye checks, free prescriptions, free dental checks, Council tax reduction, reduced rent, help with University fees, even help with funeral costs for your partner, the list is endless ...

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 9:34pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?
    What would you suggest? I am not in any position to influence political decisions in any way other than by making my thoughts known. I cannot work due to health problems and no amount of financial blackmail to get me to work for a pittance is going to improve my health, if anything it worsens it. Between 2011-2012 10,600 people died within 6 weeks of being found fit for work by the government appointed assessors. After this they have refused to publish figures. Some may call this incompetence others may call it genocide but I would presume that as the previous government appointed the assessors figures will exist so as to compare to see whether it is the assessor at fault and not the government policies that explain these deaths?.

    You seem to be able to operate a computer OK, there is lots you can be doing just sitting there, let your fingers do the talking. I agree there is a lot of unfairness, and incompetence out there, a few lines in the right places could get the ball rolling. It is important not to sit back and rue your rotten luck, time to stand up and be counted. Actions speak louder than words but words can spark action.

    Score: 2
    Indigenous UK Pensioner. 9:35pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    Indigenous UK Pensioner. wrote…


    Who let all the norverners on ere today. I never new they could reed up there never mind right two.

    THAnK YoU
    Some still can but steps are being taken to minimize the problem.

    Youse better get yaselves back up norf now its getting late and they shut the Watford Gap at 10. We don't wanting all you norvern Jesse wandering arund dahn ear wiv us in the dark.

    THAnK yoU

    Score: -23
    OSPREYSAINT 9:38pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    fredaj wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    MartinB58 wrote…


    This budget is a whole load of nothingness for the average worker with a mortgage and a family to feed. Once living costs (without luxuries) have been paid there is already nothing left to save. Let alone going to the pub for a cheaper pint or playing bingo with.
    Spot on.
    The average family with a mortgage seems to be able to afford multiple cars, holidays, smart phones and piles of convenience food so don't tell me that they do not have money to save.

    It's all about choices and priorities.

    People do have money to save, but low Interest Rates make it a no brainer, better to buy something material and solid at the moment.

    Score: 1
    OSPREYSAINT 9:41pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Indigenous UK Pensioner. wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    Indigenous UK Pensioner. wrote…


    Who let all the norverners on ere today. I never new they could reed up there never mind right two.

    THAnK YoU
    Some still can but steps are being taken to minimize the problem.
    Youse better get yaselves back up norf now its getting late and they shut the Watford Gap at 10. We don't wanting all you norvern Jesse wandering arund dahn ear wiv us in the dark.

    THAnK yoU

    Must admit I have never experienced racial discrimination against people that live North of the Thames before, North of Hadrians Wall I can understand, East of the M27 definitely, but this is a bit naff.

    Score: 6
    OSPREYSAINT 9:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    Bantambhoy wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    So tell me this, as a result of this budget are we no longer going to be reading stories of people starving to death in this country? Are the low paid and unemployed no longer going to be reliant on either a foodbank or a payday loan company to keep them alive from one payment to the next?. I think the answer is no they have done nothing to address these problems unless you count the cut in bingo tax to encourage the desperate and gullible to gamble what little they have in the hope of coming away with a little more. The cost of petrol is the only thing keeping molitov cocktails from flying on the streets of Britain and that will only discourage the rioters for so long. The Government knows this which is why they want water cannons on our streets and riot police armed with x-12 taser shotguns. I'm sure there will be a few "all right jacks" who will argue the toss with me but I couldn't give a monkeys about those who are doing alright thank you, I'm disgusted by the sheer numbers of people who are not and are having their circumstances worsened by this Nazi like Government's policies.
    I see where you are coming from, but this is a bit OTT, what exactly have you as an individual ever done to rectify the situation other than writing about it on a web site?
    What would you suggest? I am not in any position to influence political decisions in any way other than by making my thoughts known. I cannot work due to health problems and no amount of financial blackmail to get me to work for a pittance is going to improve my health, if anything it worsens it. Between 2011-2012 10,600 people died within 6 weeks of being found fit for work by the government appointed assessors. After this they have refused to publish figures. Some may call this incompetence others may call it genocide but I would presume that as the previous government appointed the assessors figures will exist so as to compare to see whether it is the assessor at fault and not the government policies that explain these deaths?.
    All these 'facts' have been brought up in Parliament by your party demanding that they be debated as a matter of urgency? I don't think so. Your usual left wing drivel.
    I don't have a party. I'm not stupid enough to believe that there is too much difference between them. We've had Thatcherite policies who ever's been the puppets fronting it. I'm a socialist. Can you remember what that means? If so could you explain it to the Labour party?

    I have no idea what Party to support, New Labour is a definite no, no. UKIP ha, ha no thanks, Perhaps we should resurrect the Whigs?

    Score: 4
    RollandSmoke 9:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....
    So if you've got nothing you've cracked it? And if your getting £30,000 and upwards because you may be loosing more money than someone with nothing you are worse off? Do the nurses know you're using the computer?
    Of course you are better off, the less you have the more benefits you get, which includes free eye checks, free prescriptions, free dental checks, Council tax reduction, reduced rent, help with University fees, even help with funeral costs for your partner, the list is endless ...

    What if you just want to get from one week to the next what is the minimum amount required to do that? Well before any of the bedroom tax and the 25% reduction in council tax benefit the legal minimum you were deemed to require was more or less what someone on JSA would receive. Now some are paying the bedroom tax and the 25% of their council tax but the amount which was deemed to be just about the legal minimum hasn't changed so how is what they are getting now still deemed the legal minimum or even legal? You may be the sort of person who is constantly going to the doctors or having their eyes checked but it's surely not an everyday thing. If you need a free prescription it would suggest you were not well and you were taking steps to improve the situation.

    Score: -5
    good-gosh 9:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    There is no doubt that the deficit, economy and employment are all improving and the wealth created will filter down through increased tax receipts to address the shortfalls in welfare.

    Score: -3
    OSPREYSAINT 9:59pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Just noticed the aeroplane picture used to depict a long haul flight! A short haul easyJet Boeing 737 a type that I don't think they have used since 2011 and hardly relevant in this case.

    Score: -4
    RollandSmoke 10:16pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    good-gosh wrote…


    There is no doubt that the deficit, economy and employment are all improving and the wealth created will filter down through increased tax receipts to address the shortfalls in welfare.

    Is there really? No doubt you say? Whys that, is it because that's what they've told you? Well it must be 100% bang on accurate cos these guys never lie. Have you got an estimated time of arrival for this trickle cos there's a lot of people desperate for every drop they can get. I'm sure it wont be having any knock on effects on the NHS or the crime rates in the mean time but if you could hurry them along. Thanks for that I feel reassured.

    Score: -3
    miltonarcher 10:31pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Keep your fingers crossed Ed Balls never gets the keys to number 11 Downing St. Remember the shambles of the Brown years, selling off our gold reserves at the bottom of the market, 10 p tax fiasco, Balls was Browns adviser!

    Score: 10
    Iona Ferrari 10:42pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?

    Indeed, i would assume most of them stay at home smoking weed in front of their 50 inch televisions, venturing out only pick up their large quantity of offspring from the local schools

    Score: 4
    eurogordi 10:57pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    spanglishbull.uk wrote…


    Osprey Saint,
    I live in Spain.I lived and worked in England until I was 65 years old.I get NO Benefits from the U.K only my basic State pension.I do not return to the U.K. for any medical treatment.I get free medical here as I am an E.U. pensioner paying 10% towards my prescriptions.I am not entitled to any benefits from the Spanish system,which by the way I fully agree with,maybe the U.K could follow suit.You are quite correct,I know plenty of ex pats who return to the U.K. for medicals etc.claim Housing Benefit,Child Allowance,Care Allowance etc,etc,etc.Who is to blame? The G.P.s for one who know their patients live abroad but turn a blind eye to the fact.I know people who receive six months of Prescriptions ,sent by their families,why do the G.P.s do this?I know people with N.H.S dentists in the U.K. who actually ring up from Spain to book an appointment.Why do the Dentists allow this.I will tell you why,the Country is corrupt from top to bottom,that is why.Do not just blame immigration,look closer to home.

    If you have chosen to live in Spain you should NOT be getting a state pension from the UK. End of.

    Score: -1
    RollandSmoke 10:58pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Iona Ferrari wrote…


    Hyper-Deactive wrote…


    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    GRUMPY PARENT wrote…


    Sanctioning people for 13 weeks, putting people on silly courses (so classed as in education) or making them work voluntary does not reduce unemployment it's called fudging figures!
    Keeps 'em off the streets though.
    why would you assume that all unemployed people walk the streets every day ?
    Indeed, i would assume most of them stay at home smoking weed in front of their 50 inch televisions, venturing out only pick up their large quantity of offspring from the local schools

    There doesn't seem to be many on here fighting their corner despite the government making it more or less essential that they have some form of internet access in order to use the universal jobsmatch site to look at jobs that may or may not exist. Any idea why that is?

    Score: -2
    eurogordi 11:03pm Wed 19 Mar 14

    Pensioners should think themselves lucky for what they already have and, if they don't have enough money, then they should have been more prudent during their working lives. This budget has done nothing for the young people of this land who are already demoralised by the lack of apprenticeships and other employment opportunities. I have nothing against pensioners, but they should try and survive on what someone in their twenties has too! Then pensioners really might have something to complain about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Score: -5
    Gribbet 12:17am Thu 20 Mar 14

    Surprisingly, given that it's one of the main issues we see the petrolheads getting angry about in the comments, Argus decided not to mention the 200m for repairing potholes under it's summary. Keep em angry?

    Score: -1
    dvl dude 12:28am Thu 20 Mar 14

    Thanks to him if i go down the pub and buy 320 beers i can get one free that's an offer i'm not going to miss out on and why is he showing everyone hes lunchbox

    Score: -2
    fredaj 1:00am Thu 20 Mar 14

    eurogordi wrote…


    Pensioners should think themselves lucky for what they already have and, if they don't have enough money, then they should have been more prudent during their working lives. This budget has done nothing for the young people of this land who are already demoralised by the lack of apprenticeships and other employment opportunities. I have nothing against pensioners, but they should try and survive on what someone in their twenties has too! Then pensioners really might have something to complain about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Someone in their twenties has every opportunity to earn money - it is just a question of being bothered, being prepared to start at the bottom, and gaining a skill.

    Score: 4
    Magicman! 2:17am Thu 20 Mar 14

    Pander to rich old people and screw the poor... get the votes rolling in from those who always vote every time and look after your own, isn't that right Tories?!

    Score: -1
    skeptik 4:36am Thu 20 Mar 14

    Grant Shapps 'they' like to play bingo - or Housey Housey to MPs claiming housing benefits on a second home. Not going to mock Shapps we need humour in our mundane lives and who better than this clown to provide it.

    Score: 0
    skeptik 7:21am Thu 20 Mar 14

    The world is coming out of recession many are doing much better than we are, domestic politicians claim the credit when this happens but deny it is down to them when they make a mess of it. I shall vote UKIP - they will not win much - but if they can destroy the complacent system that has refused to modernize then it will be a vote well placed.

    Score: 1
    skeptik 8:21am Thu 20 Mar 14

    If you wish to read the 'Red Book' - Treasury Budget 2014.

    Score: 0
    OSPREYSAINT 8:56am Thu 20 Mar 14

    I have just sussed why we are getting this Northern input, the thread is linked to the York Press, Bradford Telegraph and The Argus sites, hence the reference to Bolton, Bradford and other Northern areas.

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 8:58am Thu 20 Mar 14

    eurogordi wrote…


    spanglishbull.uk wrote…


    Osprey Saint,
    I live in Spain.I lived and worked in England until I was 65 years old.I get NO Benefits from the U.K only my basic State pension.I do not return to the U.K. for any medical treatment.I get free medical here as I am an E.U. pensioner paying 10% towards my prescriptions.I am not entitled to any benefits from the Spanish system,which by the way I fully agree with,maybe the U.K could follow suit.You are quite correct,I know plenty of ex pats who return to the U.K. for medicals etc.claim Housing Benefit,Child Allowance,Care Allowance etc,etc,etc.Who is to blame? The G.P.s for one who know their patients live abroad but turn a blind eye to the fact.I know people who receive six months of Prescriptions ,sent by their families,why do the G.P.s do this?I know people with N.H.S dentists in the U.K. who actually ring up from Spain to book an appointment.Why do the Dentists allow this.I will tell you why,the Country is corrupt from top to bottom,that is why.Do not just blame immigration,look closer to home.
    If you have chosen to live in Spain you should NOT be getting a state pension from the UK. End of.

    Why not, this person has worked all his life in the UK and paid into the Pension pot, how does moving abroad make any difference?

    Score: 3
    wardyt 9:09am Thu 20 Mar 14

    OSPREYSAINT wrote…


    eurogordi wrote…

    spanglishbull.uk wrote…

    Osprey Saint, I live in Spain.I lived and worked in England until I was 65 years old.I get NO Benefits from the U.K only my basic State pension.I do not return to the U.K. for any medical treatment.I get free medical here as I am an E.U. pensioner paying 10% towards my prescriptions.I am not entitled to any benefits from the Spanish system,which by the way I fully agree with,maybe the U.K could follow suit.You are quite correct,I know plenty of ex pats who return to the U.K. for medicals etc.claim Housing Benefit,Child Allowance,Care Allowance etc,etc,etc.Who is to blame? The G.P.s for one who know their patients live abroad but turn a blind eye to the fact.I know people who receive six months of Prescriptions ,sent by their families,why do the G.P.s do this?I know people with N.H.S dentists in the U.K. who actually ring up from Spain to book an appointment.Why do the Dentists allow this.I will tell you why,the Country is corrupt from top to bottom,that is why.Do not just blame immigration,look closer to home.
    If you have chosen to live in Spain you should NOT be getting a state pension from the UK. End of.
    Why not, this person has worked all his life in the UK and paid into the Pension pot, how does moving abroad make any difference?

    I agree

    Score: 4
    InTheKnowOk 9:19am Thu 20 Mar 14

    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....
    So if you've got nothing you've cracked it? And if your getting £30,000 and upwards because you may be loosing more money than someone with nothing you are worse off? Do the nurses know you're using the computer?
    Of course you are better off, the less you have the more benefits you get, which includes free eye checks, free prescriptions, free dental checks, Council tax reduction, reduced rent, help with University fees, even help with funeral costs for your partner, the list is endless ...
    What if you just want to get from one week to the next what is the minimum amount required to do that? Well before any of the bedroom tax and the 25% reduction in council tax benefit the legal minimum you were deemed to require was more or less what someone on JSA would receive. Now some are paying the bedroom tax and the 25% of their council tax but the amount which was deemed to be just about the legal minimum hasn't changed so how is what they are getting now still deemed the legal minimum or even legal? You may be the sort of person who is constantly going to the doctors or having their eyes checked but it's surely not an everyday thing. If you need a free prescription it would suggest you were not well and you were taking steps to improve the situation.

    There are many pensioners living in 3 bed houses which they pay no rent for from the council as its all paid for .. these people need moving out to appropriate accommodation ...

    Many on benefits are better off being on them than not, if working they would be worse off.

    How can sick people improve their situation? .. I am on tablets for life not by choice, it grates on me that smokers with lung problems get people running around after them, district nurses and so on, free car, tax, etc . These are the sort of benefits that are milking the system ..

    All I know is the less you have the more help you get ..

    Score: -2
    InTheKnowOk 9:45am Thu 20 Mar 14

    Another thing, if you've got to go in a home but own your own place, (that you've worked hard for all your life and want to pass down to your kids), tough luck, they are going to use all that money from your house to fund your care until the money runs out ..

    Score: 1
    OSPREYSAINT 10:49am Thu 20 Mar 14

    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    RollandSmoke wrote…


    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Basically the less you have, the better off you are ... end of ....
    So if you've got nothing you've cracked it? And if your getting £30,000 and upwards because you may be loosing more money than someone with nothing you are worse off? Do the nurses know you're using the computer?
    Of course you are better off, the less you have the more benefits you get, which includes free eye checks, free prescriptions, free dental checks, Council tax reduction, reduced rent, help with University fees, even help with funeral costs for your partner, the list is endless ...
    What if you just want to get from one week to the next what is the minimum amount required to do that? Well before any of the bedroom tax and the 25% reduction in council tax benefit the legal minimum you were deemed to require was more or less what someone on JSA would receive. Now some are paying the bedroom tax and the 25% of their council tax but the amount which was deemed to be just about the legal minimum hasn't changed so how is what they are getting now still deemed the legal minimum or even legal? You may be the sort of person who is constantly going to the doctors or having their eyes checked but it's surely not an everyday thing. If you need a free prescription it would suggest you were not well and you were taking steps to improve the situation.
    There are many pensioners living in 3 bed houses which they pay no rent for from the council as its all paid for .. these people need moving out to appropriate accommodation ...

    Many on benefits are better off being on them than not, if working they would be worse off.

    How can sick people improve their situation? .. I am on tablets for life not by choice, it grates on me that smokers with lung problems get people running around after them, district nurses and so on, free car, tax, etc . These are the sort of benefits that are milking the system ..

    All I know is the less you have the more help you get ..

    I suspect the numbers of examples that you quote are minimal, most Pensioners have been paying money in all of their working life, now is the time that they should get some of it back. It annoys me that some people want to victimise old people, who probably spent all there life in the house that you want to kick them out of, are you aware how traumatic that can be. It is not their fault that there is a shortage of suitable housing, that lays elsewhere.
    Quote : "All I know is the less you have the more help you get .."
    I don't think that reads how you intended it.

    Score: 2
    OSPREYSAINT 10:54am Thu 20 Mar 14

    InTheKnowOk wrote…


    Another thing, if you've got to go in a home but own your own place, (that you've worked hard for all your life and want to pass down to your kids), tough luck, they are going to use all that money from your house to fund your care until the money runs out ..

    How else is the care going to be paid for? A lot of people do this voluntarily, the house is an assett to be used to ensure care for the rest of their life, carried out legally and sensibly it's the ideal solution.

    Score: -2
    Torchie1 10:58am Thu 20 Mar 14

    eurogordi wrote…


    Pensioners should think themselves lucky for what they already have and, if they don't have enough money, then they should have been more prudent during their working lives. This budget has done nothing for the young people of this land who are already demoralised by the lack of apprenticeships and other employment opportunities. I have nothing against pensioners, but they should try and survive on what someone in their twenties has too! Then pensioners really might have something to complain about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!

    I imagine that most if not all pensioners did experience the same problems when they were in their twenties. They probably lived through the Second World War, the Cold War and numerous other situations that today's twenty somethings won't have to worry about. Every generation gets their own set of problems to deal with and how they cope is what defines them, but just complaining about something won't change anything. You are dealt a hand of cards and it's up to the players to do their best.

    Score: 5