No 20mph plans a blow to schools (From The Oxford Times)
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No 20mph plans a blow to schools
1:00pm Wednesday 2nd May 2012 in Abingdon
Rodney Rose
ROADS bosses have abandoned a move to make Abingdon town centre a 20mph zone despite approving the scheme two years ago.
And headteachers who want the low-speed zones outside their schools say the news is disappointing.
Oxfordshire County Council had wanted to create the speed limit on 24 roads to make them safer.
It approved plans, that were due to cost £7,000, in February 2010 but put them on hold that August amidst spending reviews.
But the council’s cabinet member for transport Rodney Rose has now confirmed there will be no 20mph zones branding them a “waste of money” because police will not enforcing them.
Schools united to launch a road safety campaign in 2008 after Larkmead pupil Sarah Waterhouse was killed in an accident with a coach while cycling to school.
In response, Larkmead, Fitzharrys, John Mason, and Abingdon and Witney College, all called for new measures including 20mph zones by schools, zebra crossings, and speed humps.
In 2009 another schoolgirl, 11-year-old Ty-Ree Partridge, died after an accident with a van.
And last Wednesday a Year Seven boy from Larkmead suffered minor injuries after he was struck by a car.
Jonathan Dennett, head at Fitzharrys School in Northcourt Road, said: “We are still asking for the same thing we were asking for a few years ago. A 20mph zone is a low cost option and I think it would make people think when driving outside schools.”
But Mr Rose said no more zones would be created unless police enforced them.
Ch Insp Henry Parsons, from the Joint Roads Policing Unit, said: “Thames Valley Police has always maintained that roads subject to a 20mph limit should be self-enforcing, with the design and road engineering needs in place to help motorists to appreciate that the road is subject to a lower limit, thereby helping motorists to comply with the lower limit.”
Comments(9)
online_reader
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3:23pm Wed 2 May 12
Inkpot
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3:29pm Wed 2 May 12
Try driving at more than 20mph in Abingdon at most times.
EMBOX1
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7:23pm Wed 2 May 12
I think we should demand a refund..to come from his pension.
iklhik
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8:41pm Wed 2 May 12
EMBOX1 wrote:Here here, and an apology for littering our beautiful city with thousands of pieces of red and black plastic. He should remember the 20mph folly wasn't a "waste of money", it was a waste of OUR money!
Rodney didn't mind burning three hundred thousand pounds on the Oxford 20 limit.
I think we should demand a refund..to come from his pension.
LORD PETER MACVEY 0X2 6EG
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9:42pm Wed 2 May 12
EMBOX1
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10:13pm Wed 2 May 12
Should keep all the Oxford dahlings happy too..
Abberdon
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10:01am Thu 3 May 12
We all know it has long been in place, but why and how did it get to be the standard?
Perhaps it should be even higher?
That way, those who decry road safety (most of the comments here disregard personal safety as being of any value) will be able to go even faster.
Why should the Police be blamed for nitwits who speed?
These same nitwits would moan loudest at paying higher taxes to employ more police, wouldn't they?
No, it is not the responibility of the Peelers to catch individuals, it is the responsibility of individuals to accept the speed zones they are in and adhere to them, bearing in mind the sign is not a minimum, but a maximum -if it is safe to drive at that speed.
Not a God-given right to drive at that speed everywhere at all times, mind you.
If, as Inkpot suggests, it is hard to drive above 20 mph in Abingdon, then why is it a) an issue to reduce the speed limit to reflect the reality of the road conditions and b) why hasn't the council moved long ago to change the speed?
Finally, as Bart Simpson so frequently shows here, the 'commonsense' he so adores is, all too frequently, neither common, nor sense.
LORD PETER MACVEY 0X2 6EG
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1:15pm Thu 3 May 12
Abberdon wrote:Because in answer to your quaestion, if you can't do more than 20 in Abby during the day, why lower the 30 or 40 limit, to criminalise drivers at 2 am who can drive at these speeds perfectly safely. What is a safe limit outside a school at 3pm is not at 3am.
Those who support the continuation of 30 mph as the standard need to show the research that backs it up as being the most appropriate speed.
We all know it has long been in place, but why and how did it get to be the standard?
Perhaps it should be even higher?
That way, those who decry road safety (most of the comments here disregard personal safety as being of any value) will be able to go even faster.
Why should the Police be blamed for nitwits who speed?
These same nitwits would moan loudest at paying higher taxes to employ more police, wouldn't they?
No, it is not the responibility of the Peelers to catch individuals, it is the responsibility of individuals to accept the speed zones they are in and adhere to them, bearing in mind the sign is not a minimum, but a maximum -if it is safe to drive at that speed.
Not a God-given right to drive at that speed everywhere at all times, mind you.
If, as Inkpot suggests, it is hard to drive above 20 mph in Abingdon, then why is it a) an issue to reduce the speed limit to reflect the reality of the road conditions and b) why hasn't the council moved long ago to change the speed?
Finally, as Bart Simpson so frequently shows here, the 'commonsense' he so adores is, all too frequently, neither common, nor sense.
Bart Simpsonxxx says...
1:49pm Wed 2 May 12