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Children from Kirtlington C of E Primary School were out with the police to speak to drivers speeding through their village. PCSO Jason Manton looks on as William Grosvenor-Smith and Poppy Macfarlane, both aged 10, speak to John Coombes who was 1mph over Children from Kirtlington C of E Primary School were out with the police to speak to drivers speeding through their village. PCSO Jason Manton looks on as William Grosvenor-Smith and Poppy Macfarlane, both aged 10, speak to John Coombes who was 1mph over

Speeding drivers in Kirtlington were being ticked off this week.

Youngsters from the village’s primary school were out in force with police officers on Thursday to catch speeding drivers.

When the drivers were caught they were pulled over into a layby where the children explained why they wanted them to slow down.

John Coombes, 58, from Stow-on-the-Wold, was caught going one mile-per-hour over the speed limit through Kirtlington, where the speed limit is 30mph.

He said: “It was good because it makes the driver think about what they are doing and gets the message across.

“The operation was very nicely done and I don’t think of it as a finger-pointing exercise.”

Nearly 50 drivers were stopped and while they were not given a ticket, the children gave them a letter explaining the effects of speeding.

Comments(12)

gymrat34 says...
11:59pm Sat 11 Feb 12

I'm not condoning speeding, but (and I think the Oxford Mail stresses it enough) 1mph over?!
That could be explained by any number of things and it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference in an impact.
I'd rather drivers were on the look out for kids and other potential 'hazards' and be 1mph over the limit than be exactly at 30mph and be looking at the speedometer more than necessary.
My point is, the article is great that it shows the good work of the Police/PSCO and the children but detracts from it by picking out someone who wouldn't have been booked for speeding under any normal circumstances.

Man on the Green says...
9:24am Sun 12 Feb 12

Reaearch by the Road Traffic Laboratory has shown that for every reduction of 1mph in average urban speeds, there is a corresponding 12% reduction in accidents.

So whilst it is true that Mr Coombes wouldn't have got a speeding ticket, if he and we all can be persuaded - for example - to shift into third gear when we enter a built-up area, we could help make a significant difference to the terrible toll of RTAs, with children and the elderly being at greatest risk.

More and more councils are listening to the experts who have shown that 20mph zones in residential areas are the best way of cutting road deaths and other accidents in towns (and cut emissions to boot). May OCC sit up and take notice at last!

Englishman says...
9:59am Sun 12 Feb 12

Perhaps one should also look at those parents who insist on dropping little Johnny off as close to the school gates as possible and just abandon their vehicles whilst doing so. Only last week at this particular school a vehicle stopped dead in the road in front of me as the driver spotted a gap and thought she could get her car in into it but then realized she could not and had to drive some 100 yds further.

Darkforbid says...
2:10pm Sun 12 Feb 12

┄John Coombes, 58, from Stow-on-the-Wold, was caught going one mile-per-hour over the speed limit through Kirtlington, where the speed limit is 30mph┄

That's an illegal stop, was this about child safety, or showing police power to kids?

LORD PETE MCVAY. OX2 6EG says...
7:17pm Sun 12 Feb 12

Man on the Green wrote:
Reaearch by the Road Traffic Laboratory has shown that for every reduction of 1mph in average urban speeds, there is a corresponding 12% reduction in accidents.

So whilst it is true that Mr Coombes wouldn't have got a speeding ticket, if he and we all can be persuaded - for example - to shift into third gear when we enter a built-up area, we could help make a significant difference to the terrible toll of RTAs, with children and the elderly being at greatest risk.

More and more councils are listening to the experts who have shown that 20mph zones in residential areas are the best way of cutting road deaths and other accidents in towns (and cut emissions to boot). May OCC sit up and take notice at last!
Rubbish, so there has been a 120% drop in accidents in the city and 240% on the ringroad has there. Your post is about as silly as saying that speed cameras bring about a 50% reduction in accidents, they don't and neither do, draconian speed limits, bad driving causes accidents, and ill-informed people believe the so called experts and cry out for lower this and that all the time. What a load of nonsense and waste of money.

iklhik says...
10:40pm Sun 12 Feb 12

"ill-informed people believe the so called experts and cry out for lower this and that all the time. What a load of nonsense and waste of money."

Hear hear.

Porphyro says...
8:48am Mon 13 Feb 12

Lord PeeMac shares his shocking insight that "bad driving causes accidents". He's right, and one aspect of bad driving is going too fast for the conditions. A 30 mph or 40 mph is the MAXIMUM permitted speed for the area in question and anyone exceeding that legal limit is breaking the law. In many circumstances the safe speed in a 30 limit is much less than 30. The degree of risk associated with exceeding the limit depends on how busy the road is, whether it's wet or icy, near a school at 8.30am, etc. but a limit is a limit and I know that if I'm doing 40 in a 30 limit I'm asking for trouble and shouldn't complain if I get a speeding ticket. More important, I'm posing an unnecessary threat to other road road users and that's plain irresponsible.

Why do some people appear to resent speed limits and the enforcement thereof? It seems to have something to do with an excessive libertarianism that persuades some individuals that their rights trump the rights of everyone everyone.

Porphyro says...
8:56am Mon 13 Feb 12

Sorry - last two words should be "everyone else".

Ellie the Bruce says...
1:49pm Mon 13 Feb 12

I get so incensed when people start wittering on about "bad driving" and "draconian" measures to restrict driving speeds. How, as a driver, can you fail to see the direct correlation between speeding (not driving fast, but driving illegally above the designated maximum limit for that area) and the % of surviving an RTA for the vulnerable groups in our society? That aside, if there is a speed limit - just stick to it, people. And if you don't like it, get yourself elected and change the law. However, if you can't do that and you object to the limit that has been set for that particular route - find another road to drive on.

Kropotkin says...
8:04pm Mon 13 Feb 12

Only cults and regimes like North Korea use young people to exert authority over adults.

Darkforbid says...
8:52pm Mon 13 Feb 12

┄That aside, if there is
a speed limit - just stick to it,
people. And if you don't like it, get
yourself elected and change the
law┄

Yep and the law allows a 10% margin of error. I doubt most of the people stopped were above that.

King Joke says...
8:58pm Mon 13 Feb 12

'Bad driving causes accidents'; well yes, of course it does, but you will never be able to enforce to mitigate or legislate against incompetent, aggressive or impatient drivers.

You can't educate it out of them either; everyone knows what they do is wrong, they just hope they'll get away with it.

THe only hope you've got is to temper the stupidity out there by making sure it happens more slowly. Fatal RTAs turn into non-fatal RTAs. Serious ones turn into minor ones, and minor ones turn into near-misses and non-events.

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