Oxford United 0, Bradford City 2 (Davies 51, Wells 68) (From The Oxford Times)
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Oxford United 0, Bradford City 2 (Davies 51, Wells 68)
4:55pm Saturday 22nd September 2012 in Sport
By Mark Edwards, Sports Editor. Call me on 01865 425451
Oxford United suffered their fifth straight defeat today, when Bradford scored from two set-pieces to take the points.
Left-flank corners from Gary Jones were turned in by Andrew Davies on 51 minutes and Nahki Wells on 68 to increase United's worrying run.
The first was simple - the centre half rising the highest to nod in from eight yards out.
The second was particularly poor from United's point of view - a flick from Rory McCardle at the near post was turned in by Wells two yards out. Both players were unmarked.
United, visibly low on confidence, did not muster a shot on goal until the 70th minute, when substitute Peter Leven saw his free-kick saved.
But that was as good as it got for United, who could have lost by more had keeper Ryan Clarke not produced a stunning one-handed stop to deny Will Atkinson on 76 minutes.
Chris Wilder made three changes to his team, one of which was forced.
Jon-Paul Pittman, injured at Cheltenham on Tuesday was ruled out, with Sean Rigg and Deane Smalley dropping to the bench.
James Constable came in, with Alfie Potter recalled and Luke O'Brien handed his debut.
It was a very scrappy first half, with neither side able to take assert their authority.
Both were quick to give away possession when they got the ball back, and chances were at a premium.
Kyle Reid had the first shot for the visitors, but his left-foot effort flew narrowly wide.
Constable tried to get on the end of a cross from Potter, but under pressure from McCardle, was unable to do so. The Oxford man claimed a penalty, but his appeals were waved away.
Clarke had a let-off after rushing out his area in the 18th minute.
Wells beat him to the ball wide on the left, but United's keeper retreated quickly enough to save his shot.
From the corner, United's No 1 was clearly fouled by James Hanson, but referee Andy Davies waved away Clarke's appeals.
It was to be, however, the start of a succession of fouls by the Bradford forward, who led with his elbow when challenging Michael Raynes on the stroke of half-time and was rightly booked.
In between, good work from Damian Batt gives Tony Capaldi the chance to shoot - but his 27th-minute effort went well wide.
Tom Craddock's ambitious free-kick struck the wall and Hanson headed wide from a deep left-wing cross.
Bradford almost made a superb start to the second period, but Clarke was equal to Gary Jones's free-kick, holding on well.
United's keeper then had to dive to his right to keep out Reid's shot.
But from the corner, Andrew Davies rose the highest to nod in from eight yards out.
United's crowd had been patient with the players, but frustration was beginning to go as more and more misplaced passes went astray - some basic ones.
With just under 30 minutes remaining, Wilder replaced O'Brien - who can be satisfied with his first appearance - and Heslop, with Leven and Rigg.
Constable lashed over a left-foot shot, but it at least got the crowd back in voice, urging their team forward.
There was now real urgency in United's play, but still they couldn't test John McLaughlin.
And they were then hit by a sucker punch as from another Jones corner on the left, a flick from McCardle was turned in by Wells two yards out.
Leven had Oxford's first shot on target in the 70th minute, but his free-kick was saved by McLaughlin.
Atkinson beat Michael Raynes and Leven on a surging run, but Clarke made a stunning one-handed save to keep out his effort.
And although United looked to get back into the game, were unable to manufacture a clear opening, and left the field to a chorus of boos.
Oxford Utd: Clarke, Batt, Raynes, Wright, O'Brien (Leven 62), Potter, Heslop (Rigg 62), Cox, Capaldi, Constable, Craddock. Subs: Smalley, Brown, Worley, Boateng, Marsh. Booked: Cox.
Bradford City: McLaughlin; McCardle, Davies, Oliver, Meredith; Atkinson, Jones, Doyle, Reid (Hines 83), Wells (Thompson 69), Hanson. Subs: Duke, Darby, Ravenhill, Connell, McHugh. Booked: Hanson.
Referee: Andy Davies.
Attendance: 6,032 (393 from Bradford).
Comments(71)
northampton yellow
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5:12pm Sat 22 Sep 12
dave from witney
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5:19pm Sat 22 Sep 12
lozkel wrote:Hmm I suppose that's Yorkshire grammar for you, Apart from that, he just has to go this weekend. Not a clue up front or in midfield but we can still concede crazy goals.
come on city,we,re just too good for you.we,re just too good for you
lozkel
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5:41pm Sat 22 Sep 12
dave from witney wrote:thes nowt rong wi yorkshire folk or their gramer
lozkel wrote:Hmm I suppose that's Yorkshire grammar for you, Apart from that, he just has to go this weekend. Not a clue up front or in midfield but we can still concede crazy goals.
come on city,we,re just too good for you.we,re just too good for you
lozkel
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5:42pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Coleview Red
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5:49pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Onwards and upwards.
umpcah
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6:23pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy
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6:40pm Sat 22 Sep 12
The Manager
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6:54pm Sat 22 Sep 12
AylesburyOx
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6:59pm Sat 22 Sep 12
marston old boy
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7:04pm Sat 22 Sep 12
badger86
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7:40pm Sat 22 Sep 12
tws
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7:49pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy
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7:50pm Sat 22 Sep 12
bigchet
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8:00pm Sat 22 Sep 12
PhilS
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8:02pm Sat 22 Sep 12
karatavuk
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8:25pm Sat 22 Sep 12
This performance was a disgrace. If we played like that for the rest of the season we would be relegated by Christmas.
Wilder has to go and go quickly because every day he remains here is damaging the club.
Chish and Fips
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8:26pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Have a good week you lot.
Even you Big Crumpy who must be cringing in a dark corner somewhere .. All those clever words you tried and look how silly you look now.
the wizard
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9:01pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Your manager sticking so rigidly to 4--3-3 is frankly laughable when so few others do it with better players and still struggle. Even by your standards it is surely a bit early to be sliding down the table with such panache.
After our dire season two years back we know what it is like, get Wilder out while you still have a chance .
adlibber
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11:48pm Sat 22 Sep 12
We can rescue this season if there is a change now or we can accept that as a club we are heading back to the dark ages. If Lenagan wants his investment back he needs to react now. The fans deserve far better(again) that the garbage being served. I won't be returning to games until there is a change- my protest means nothing but if 2-3 thousand feel the same Lenagan should wake up and Wilder should be gone.
the wizard
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12:57am Sun 23 Sep 12
adlibber wrote:Come on Adbibber, right now what wouldn't you guys give for a comfortable 4-0 home win, and my post in not so many words said the same as yourself, so that is not being a Troll one bit.
Swindon trolls - enjoy your pathetic day in the sun but remember you will get burnt eventually when PDC implodes; for the rest of us human beings we have the same choice we had under Kassam - we change or die - Wilder is cooked, his cliché ridden excuses are an embarrassment to him and the club. Lenagan is either very smart or very stupid I'm undecided but what's clear is Wilder is finished he has absolutely no clue what to do and players clearly have no interest in playing for him or even playing for pride. The club has gone backwards the fans have remained. This loyalty will run out.
We can rescue this season if there is a change now or we can accept that as a club we are heading back to the dark ages. If Lenagan wants his investment back he needs to react now. The fans deserve far better(again) that the garbage being served. I won't be returning to games until there is a change- my protest means nothing but if 2-3 thousand feel the same Lenagan should wake up and Wilder should be gone.
Wilder got you out of the BSP, but really you have not progressed as you should since. On the other hand he has had little money to do anything with, not exactly his fault. You should have sold Beano and got the money to spend on the team, Beano has done sweet little since in the greater scheme of things.
It is not the fault of the fans you are where you are, but mis management, and your owner is from what many can see more into RFU than OU. That is something you guys need to sort out. I wish you luck, and by looks of things right now, you could do with some.
hawkeye1
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2:20am Sun 23 Sep 12
losses and let the team go to the dogs, but losing 5 in a row is not good enough, fans can only take so much.
oldun
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6:15am Sun 23 Sep 12
oldun
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6:16am Sun 23 Sep 12
lozkel
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7:35am Sun 23 Sep 12
karatavuk wrote:a little bit of jealousy here me thinks
To say City were the better team doesn't say much for them. Any team could have beaten Oxford today.
This performance was a disgrace. If we played like that for the rest of the season we would be relegated by Christmas.
Wilder has to go and go quickly because every day he remains here is damaging the club.
adlibber
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7:43am Sun 23 Sep 12
We have a bleakish outlook and every time it looks like we're moving forwards something happens to drag us back. Lenagan appears disinterested two key personnel have left the board and nothing has been said. Fans won't and shouldn't keep pouring money into a club that has little respect for them. I've been supporting the club for a long time travelled all over the country to watch them and travel 300 miles round trip to watch a home game. Not any more. I fear for the club and the remarkable loyalty of fans is being mocked by the board and the manager.
I really can't believe Wilder is still in his job.
Chish and Fips
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8:46am Sun 23 Sep 12
adlibber wrote:To cut a very long winded post down - I think you are trying to say you lot are up the creek without a paddle.
Wizard - your empty platitudes are designed to take the mick out of our misery - I understand that such is the rivalry but seriously the amount of time some of you people spend on here borders on obsession. LeGod is the worst of all of you - a creep hiding behind a keyboard. I even get that you and fellow reds are revelling in our seemingly endless race to the bottom but when you do that patronising thing it does get tiresome. Regards our club of course a win would be welcome but it wouldn't be enough because Wilder has Plan A and nothing else. We will scrape a few wins against teams marginally worse than us but given our current performances relegation has entered my thoughts after just a handful of games. I am genuinely embarrassed by Wilder's post match excuses he really is out of his depth with issues on and off the pitch.
We have a bleakish outlook and every time it looks like we're moving forwards something happens to drag us back. Lenagan appears disinterested two key personnel have left the board and nothing has been said. Fans won't and shouldn't keep pouring money into a club that has little respect for them. I've been supporting the club for a long time travelled all over the country to watch them and travel 300 miles round trip to watch a home game. Not any more. I fear for the club and the remarkable loyalty of fans is being mocked by the board and the manager.
I really can't believe Wilder is still in his job.
Have avoid week you lot.
Chish and Fips
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8:46am Sun 23 Sep 12
adlibber wrote:To cut a very long winded post down - I think you are trying to say you lot are up the creek without a paddle.
Wizard - your empty platitudes are designed to take the mick out of our misery - I understand that such is the rivalry but seriously the amount of time some of you people spend on here borders on obsession. LeGod is the worst of all of you - a creep hiding behind a keyboard. I even get that you and fellow reds are revelling in our seemingly endless race to the bottom but when you do that patronising thing it does get tiresome. Regards our club of course a win would be welcome but it wouldn't be enough because Wilder has Plan A and nothing else. We will scrape a few wins against teams marginally worse than us but given our current performances relegation has entered my thoughts after just a handful of games. I am genuinely embarrassed by Wilder's post match excuses he really is out of his depth with issues on and off the pitch.
We have a bleakish outlook and every time it looks like we're moving forwards something happens to drag us back. Lenagan appears disinterested two key personnel have left the board and nothing has been said. Fans won't and shouldn't keep pouring money into a club that has little respect for them. I've been supporting the club for a long time travelled all over the country to watch them and travel 300 miles round trip to watch a home game. Not any more. I fear for the club and the remarkable loyalty of fans is being mocked by the board and the manager.
I really can't believe Wilder is still in his job.
Have avoid week you lot.
Chish and Fips
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8:48am Sun 23 Sep 12
AylesburyOx
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9:03am Sun 23 Sep 12
Chish and Fips wrote:I'll be honest, 'avoid week' sounds a lot more realistic these days.
Have a good week you lot
Brenda Jackson
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9:07am Sun 23 Sep 12
*There are better descriptions i could use
if not in the Public arena.
Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????
tws
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9:44am Sun 23 Sep 12
I'm a CW fan but apparently his all stems from the Youth policy, CW & Lenagan don't get on. So why is it that Oxford fans who spends his hard earned cash the one paying the price?? Be honest come out & sort it. We all know if things aren't right in the Football club it will affect players, on the field, please sort it!!!
No wonder the Scum fans are laughing!!!
jbowling
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11:33am Sun 23 Sep 12
an management etc. The players he has assembled are either no good or he is not getting the best out of them - you decide which but both are his fault.
You can't trust him to spend in January when he buys players likeCraddock and Smalley.The injured players all seem to have become saviours since they have become unavailable when in truth they are either reserves or finished for good.
The real question is WHEN will Lenegan pull the trigger. For those that want him to stay be aware that the damage being done will itself take time to fix and even if he goes now we won't reallistically be able to get to league one until August 2014 at the earliest.
For those that want him to stay - what are you seeing that I'm not ?
By the way the statistic being bandied around at present about scoring more than two goels says a lot. Could anyone tell me how many times we have come from behind to win under Wilder.?
It really is very rare
Malkym
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11:37am Sun 23 Sep 12
Brenda Jackson wrote:Brenda darling how are you? how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out :)
Please try and avoid the pathetic trolls- especially the ones calling for Lenegan to go, they are obviously getting kicks out of coming on here and stirring things up. GAL = Get a Life> trolls* *There are better descriptions i could use if not in the Public arena. Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????
Simon84
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12:09pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy wrote:What money? The only money that we have has been put in by Lenagan.
Lenagan is here purely for the money and is draining us dry get him out now
Brenda Jackson
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12:46pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Malkym wrote:''A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out ''
Brenda Jackson wrote: Please try and avoid the pathetic trolls- especially the ones calling for Lenegan to go, they are obviously getting kicks out of coming on here and stirring things up. GAL = Get a Life> trolls* *There are better descriptions i could use if not in the Public arena. Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????Brenda darling how are you? how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out :)
Is a 'wekk' a wiltshire term? Or are you all thumbs?
''how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420''
How 'manty' times in a wekk?
G.A.L. troll, and go back to school.
CLLR KEN TIWARI
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12:56pm Sun 23 Sep 12
" Tomorrow is a etter Day "-
(KT)
Gerry Jakeman
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1:36pm Sun 23 Sep 12
oldun
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1:44pm Sun 23 Sep 12
BigAlBiker
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2:00pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Give Tyrone a go, can't do any worse.
bigchet
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3:27pm Sun 23 Sep 12
northampton yellow
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3:38pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy
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3:47pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Bis4badger
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4:16pm Sun 23 Sep 12
You could see that the team has been effected by injury, and for a non-fit sub to be the first to hit the target says at lot. In one way i'm Glad Tyrone Marsh didn't come on for his own sake, but wonder if a change were the ball was passed through their back line with a pacey lad to run onto it might have given some sort of result.
So 6032 were there to witness this last pathetic display, we'll be lucky to have 5000 for the Wimbledon game unless something drastic happens.
Last point; I have to agree with all those mentioning about the silence that is coming form the club. if they expect us to turn up week in, week out, they need to be a bit more open with us, because as supporters I feel we deserve to know what's going on.
Time for change me thinks !!!!
lozkel
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4:26pm Sun 23 Sep 12
karatavuk wrote:thats why we;re joint second and your'e relegation fodder
To say City were the better team doesn't say much for them. Any team could have beaten Oxford today.
This performance was a disgrace. If we played like that for the rest of the season we would be relegated by Christmas.
Wilder has to go and go quickly because every day he remains here is damaging the club.
Malkym
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4:28pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Brenda Jackson wrote:Aww Bren darling fancy you getting upset by a little typo you ought to be far more worried about plummeting back to the Blue Square. Perhaps they'll rename it Yellow & Blue Square in honour of your club's dire descent into imminent oblivion?
Malkym wrote:''A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out '' Is a 'wekk' a wiltshire term? Or are you all thumbs? ''how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420'' How 'manty' times in a wekk? G.A.L. troll, and go back to school.Brenda Jackson wrote: Please try and avoid the pathetic trolls- especially the ones calling for Lenegan to go, they are obviously getting kicks out of coming on here and stirring things up. GAL = Get a Life> trolls* *There are better descriptions i could use if not in the Public arena. Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????Brenda darling how are you? how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out :)
Oh and BigChef - glad you enjoyed your trip down the 420 at least you got to see what a football ground should look like. Congratulations on the six points you took from us as well but can you remind me out of our two respective teams who was it that got promoted as champions and who managed to spectacularly avoid the play-offs? Oh and well done on your JPT success against us too. Saw cracking shot from Constable on the FL show -he was really unlucky it was only a whisker over the bar - well a 10-15 foot whisker. what a prolific striker he's turned out to be - your lot must be really glad you persuaded him to stay by sending him hate mail when he was talking to Paolo about defecting. Mind you at least if he'd have come here he'd be fit - unlike the tub of lard I saw on TV yesterday.
Onwards and upwards for us sideways and downwards for your lot!
oldun
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5:41pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Malcy69
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6:45pm Sun 23 Sep 12
karatavuk
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7:01pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy wrote:Lenegan has nothing to do with the rugby, dimwit.
As I've said lenagan only here for the rugby this man is a parasite not a Oxford supporter never has been never will fact
foxvox
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7:08pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Brenda Jackson
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7:09pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Beau champ mummy wrote:Oh dear yet another Troll, you clearly are
As I've said lenagan only here for the rugby this man is a parasite not a Oxford supporter never has been never will fact
a sad wind-up merchant, if your team's so good, and your life on the dark side so forfilling -what are you doing here? G.A.L.
mikek
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9:14pm Sun 23 Sep 12
bigchet wrote:Yes you live for that game and cherish it because soon its all you will have left, just dreams of what it was like being in the football league and playing the mighty STFC. Were heading in opposite directions enjoy the Blue Square next season.
well i see that brenda jackson is being advised to go down the a420 and see a good side performing , well i took that advice once last year and really enjoyed what i saw , not that the folks in red and white looked very happy at the end though.
mikek
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9:16pm Sun 23 Sep 12
oldun wrote:Oldun you need spec savers bud.
What a football ground should look like ? Back to the early 80s? One very decent stand (with no atmosphere - like our South stand) - one relic from the 60s (great days in Rogers' era) , one open air 1930s tip and one average side. Narr , our ground is much better - and you know it - even if our team is much worse (except in matches between the clubs) .
oldun
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9:31pm Sun 23 Sep 12
mikek
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9:47pm Sun 23 Sep 12
oldun wrote:oldun for a fairly new ground the Kassam looks very poor and certainly gives the impression of three large tin sheds and certainly not a fairly new ground. Ok so some of the County Ground is dated but judge our ground after its re-development and we will see who then has the better looking ground. I'm sure they could have made a better fist of yours but obviously built it on the cheap and ran out of money hence the open car park where the fourth stand should have been.
Which aspect did I get wrong of Wiltshire's answer to Wembley? Which side(s)? Let's hear ya
Chish and Fips
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10:25pm Sun 23 Sep 12
oldun wrote:It is not only the 3 sided ground you have that is useless and not able to cope , it's also draining any money you can afford to better your squad .... Which would I prefer to see - an relatively new 3 sided ground and a god awful side or what we have.
Which aspect did I get wrong of Wiltshire's answer to Wembley? Which side(s)? Let's hear ya
The CG does need improving, but all in good time - we'll cut our cloth to suit our means, and not fall hook line and sinker for a massive club crippling debt.
Have a good week you lot.
Chish and Fips
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10:32pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Brenda Jackson wrote:Think you won that one Malkym - game-over when all they can argue with is spelling mistakes....
Malkym wrote:''A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out ''
Brenda Jackson wrote: Please try and avoid the pathetic trolls- especially the ones calling for Lenegan to go, they are obviously getting kicks out of coming on here and stirring things up. GAL = Get a Life> trolls* *There are better descriptions i could use if not in the Public arena. Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????Brenda darling how are you? how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out :)
Is a 'wekk' a wiltshire term? Or are you all thumbs?
''how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420''
How 'manty' times in a wekk?
G.A.L. troll, and go back to school.
Brenda Jackson
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11:08pm Sun 23 Sep 12
Chish and Fips wrote:You're i presume from the wiltshire area,
Brenda Jackson wrote:Think you won that one Malkym - game-over when all they can argue with is spelling mistakes....Malkym wrote:''A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out '' Is a 'wekk' a wiltshire term? Or are you all thumbs? ''how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420'' How 'manty' times in a wekk? G.A.L. troll, and go back to school.Brenda Jackson wrote: Please try and avoid the pathetic trolls- especially the ones calling for Lenegan to go, they are obviously getting kicks out of coming on here and stirring things up. GAL = Get a Life> trolls* *There are better descriptions i could use if not in the Public arena. Yes, i'm in agreement that the manager has to go, and very soon. However, the far bigger issue imo is 'Where is the Chairman'? He was at the game, apparently -but we have heard nothing from him, and his planned interview on Radio Oxford on friday was 'Postponed' ??????Brenda darling how are you? how manty times did I tell you last season to cut your losses and make the short trip down the A420 to watch some proper football...go on you know it makes more sense than watching your beloved Yellows self-implode wekk in week out :)
i don't need to know anymore.
Nothing to do with spelling mistakes, you lot just have no soh, you're funny- yes, in a strange sort of way.
OxRoxBox
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5:17am Mon 24 Sep 12
Please thank CW for where he got us but like a greyhound that has lost his pace retire himmand replacemwith new vim and vigour to motivate and get the best out of our players now!
oldun
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8:03am Mon 24 Sep 12
Chish and Fips wrote:Like ours, your ground is plenty good enough for home fans . The grounds of STFC and OUFC are hardly bursting at the seams!! The clubs are not among the Burnleys , Leicesters or Sheff Uniteds of this world. Our grounds are plenty big enough for non Championship football. Yes, yes , yes , yes - your team is doing much much better than ours is. Our ground is good enough for our fans - our playing results certainly are not.
oldun wrote:It is not only the 3 sided ground you have that is useless and not able to cope , it's also draining any money you can afford to better your squad .... Which would I prefer to see - an relatively new 3 sided ground and a god awful side or what we have.
Which aspect did I get wrong of Wiltshire's answer to Wembley? Which side(s)? Let's hear ya
The CG does need improving, but all in good time - we'll cut our cloth to suit our means, and not fall hook line and sinker for a massive club crippling debt.
Have a good week you lot.
the wizard
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9:09am Mon 24 Sep 12
There have been many parallels between our clubs over the years, both been in the top flight, both had some good players, both had bad boards, and both have had some rather indifferent managers. I think most would agree with that.
Kassam came along and "rescued" you after the fall out that was Maxwell, nobody could have fore saw Maxwells level of corruption, least of all the fan base. Kassam paid of the debts and saw a business opportunity and took it. The problem is now, your rent is stifling your progress. Wilder hasn't had money to spend freely and what he has spent hasn't worked. You have many injuries right now, so I question his pre season and levels of fitness of the players, the right training etc Either way, it seems you are stuck with him, an indifferent team, which he has built, and an owner who is more RFU than OU. Add to that a landlord who wants his money. None of that is down to the fan base. I don't envy you, your situation is not of your making. The only option seems to be a massive boycot of the next home game, to show your Chairman exactly how you feel. Not nice, but staying away en-mass will attract more publicity than protests with placards and scuffles with stewards and police. Said publicity would bring the message home to all those with a voice in the club, something would have to give. Loss of a good revenue will focus attention on the pocket of the chairman. perhaps you could then persuade to Ox mail to do a poll of who you want for your next manager, further pressure, although I doubt they would do that until after Wilder had left.
oldun
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9:11am Mon 24 Sep 12
BigOx22
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9:42am Mon 24 Sep 12
BigOx22
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9:44am Mon 24 Sep 12
Chish and Fips
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10:00am Mon 24 Sep 12
The injuries are more down to bad luck and with a small squad have unfortunately a bigger impact.
Probably I'm stating the bleeding obvious but, if say you did sack CW what resources are available to pay him off and also get in a manager of quality - and how will this effect the new managers spending budget when he wants to bring in his own cronies and Messi. Its all a minefield.
oldun
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10:22am Mon 24 Sep 12
the wizard
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10:36am Mon 24 Sep 12
oldun wrote:Yes, because they probably own their ground and have a chairman that cares and actually works with his manager, and above all, has an interest in football, not RFU.
Teams with much less revenue are doing much better
oldun
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10:40am Mon 24 Sep 12
Inkpot
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8:51pm Mon 24 Sep 12
They prefer to moan and groan and do f*** all abut it.
the wizard
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10:10pm Mon 24 Sep 12
Inkpot wrote:inkpot,
the wizard, have to say as a season ticket holder I agree with your post in just about all you say BUT our fans haven't got the balls to boycot the club.
They prefer to moan and groan and do f*** all abut it.
Thanks for that, my hope is, believe it or not, is that both clubs should do well and at least then we both have something of a derby game to look forward to.
Add to that , it is important to maintain all the clubs in the Football League. having been through the mill at SN1 and watching other clubs suffer the same is no joke. From my perspective, Chairmen, directors, managers and players all come and go, the only folk ever loyal to any club are the supporters, and I don't like to see any supporters going through it, simple as that. Your Chairman needs to be made aware of the fans feelings, you could all ring in and jam the switchboard, send in letters etc, but the action needs to be unified and simultaneous to have any effect. Moaning on here is not enough, unified action is better, several thousand turning up, but not going through the turnstiles is something else, but 100% staying away is better, no money going through the turnstiles is a very pointed message. The players when they come out onto the pitch would also receive a very stark message, some very concentrated thinking would have to be done after that.
hawkeye1
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2:08am Tue 25 Sep 12
the wizard wrote:Inkpot, I like your thinking, we could all stand and just look over the fence to watch the game, your comment about a boycot makes it sound like working at the Cowley Assembly plant back in the 70's, with old Bobby Frier, everybody out.
Inkpot wrote: the wizard, have to say as a season ticket holder I agree with your post in just about all you say BUT our fans haven't got the balls to boycot the club. They prefer to moan and groan and do f*** all abut it.inkpot, Thanks for that, my hope is, believe it or not, is that both clubs should do well and at least then we both have something of a derby game to look forward to. Add to that , it is important to maintain all the clubs in the Football League. having been through the mill at SN1 and watching other clubs suffer the same is no joke. From my perspective, Chairmen, directors, managers and players all come and go, the only folk ever loyal to any club are the supporters, and I don't like to see any supporters going through it, simple as that. Your Chairman needs to be made aware of the fans feelings, you could all ring in and jam the switchboard, send in letters etc, but the action needs to be unified and simultaneous to have any effect. Moaning on here is not enough, unified action is better, several thousand turning up, but not going through the turnstiles is something else, but 100% staying away is better, no money going through the turnstiles is a very pointed message. The players when they come out onto the pitch would also receive a very stark message, some very concentrated thinking would have to be done after that.
lozkel says...
5:03pm Sat 22 Sep 12