BNP pulls visit (From The Oxford Times)

cartamagna wrote:
You can not blame Mr Darby from
"canceling a visit" as Mr Craft is well known to be a far left communist. And going by previous interviews the controlled media
never give the BNP a fair deal .
Ask yourself this question.If the
BNP are so bad why wont the media let them prove it ?

Simon Darby wrote:
Nice story, shame it isn't true. I was never going to Oxford in the first it was simply to be a telephone interview.Here's the email I sent to the radio station on Saturday-

Dear ******,

Word reaches me this morning that rather than an interview with one of your presenters about BNP policy as originally sold to me, Monday's show is to be a "debate" between me and a member of the far left.

Unfortunately the far left don't do "debate" when it come to the BNP. Instead what we will see is an outpouring of hatred, poison and hostility that might make sensationalist radio, but will effectively drag me down to their level.

My time, although ostensibly given freely, is precious to me and I can find alternatives for a Monday morning that do not involve being shouted at, vilified and abused as part of a contrived, confrontational spectacle.

If you had let me know of your intentions in the first place it would have been better, however I'm giving you as much notice as I can so as not to disappoint or inconvenience your listeners.

Simon

Simon Darby wrote:
Nice story, shame it isn't true. I was never going to Oxford in the first it was simply to be a telephone interview.Here's the email I sent to the radio station on Saturday-

Dear ******,

Word reaches me this morning that rather than an interview with one of your presenters about BNP policy as originally sold to me, Monday's show is to be a "debate" between me and a member of the far left.

Unfortunately the far left don't do "debate" when it come to the BNP. Instead what we will see is an outpouring of hatred, poison and hostility that might make sensationalist radio, but will effectively drag me down to their level.

My time, although ostensibly given freely, is precious to me and I can find alternatives for a Monday morning that do not involve being shouted at, vilified and abused as part of a contrived, confrontational spectacle.

If you had let me know of your intentions in the first place it would have been better, however I'm giving you as much notice as I can so as not to disappoint or inconvenience your listeners.

Simon

Andrew:Oxford wrote:

Simon Darby wrote:
Nice story, shame it isn't true. I was never going to Oxford in the first it was simply to be a telephone interview.Here's the email I sent to the radio station on Saturday-

Dear ******,

Word reaches me this morning that rather than an interview with one of your presenters about BNP policy as originally sold to me, Monday's show is to be a "debate" between me and a member of the far left.

Unfortunately the far left don't do "debate" when it come to the BNP. Instead what we will see is an outpouring of hatred, poison and hostility that might make sensationalist radio, but will effectively drag me down to their level.

My time, although ostensibly given freely, is precious to me and I can find alternatives for a Monday morning that do not involve being shouted at, vilified and abused as part of a contrived, confrontational spectacle.

If you had let me know of your intentions in the first place it would have been better, however I'm giving you as much notice as I can so as not to disappoint or inconvenience your listeners.

Simon

I suspect you might be out-of-date with the "far-left", unless you were referring to Val Smith of course.

The IWCA have been standing side by side with a local group called SaveTCP (and their friends in East Oxford Conservatives) who have been campaigning to have the Labour party ousted from Oxford.

Geoff Roberts wrote:
Not so stupid though because he has managed to stir the usual suspects up into attacking someone else and turned it into a separate political attack.

Geoff Roberts wrote:
You ran away before you even got any abuse. Sounds a bit like you are accusing the other person of thought crime. Who cares? Of course it's wrong to offer you one thing and then try to give you another but why couldn't you have been seen to be the big man and stand up to it? Surely if you've got such a good case you could have wiped the floor with him (in the debate)? He could have provided you with all ammunition to need, with opportunites to put your case for - what is it again?

Instead you chose the pessimist route - you decided to retreat and take a few shots from the comments of a local newspaper - at someone you didn't even get to meet. That has been the only potentially positive outcome for you, except that too may well just backfire on you, leaving you playing the victim - again.

Simon Darby wrote:
I'll call you Geoff next time I and six other BNP members have to face down a screaming, violent mob of 1,000 IslamoMarxists as we did at the 2007 Oxford Union debate.

If you can stand by my side, with the police having abandoned us, as they stream into the building shouting threats to kill you, you'll have every right to call me a coward.

Simon Darby wrote:
I'll call you Geoff next time I and six other BNP members have to face down a screaming, violent mob of 1,000 IslamoMarxists as we did at the 2007 Oxford Union debate.

If you can stand by my side, with the police having abandoned us, as they stream into the building shouting threats to kill you, you'll have every right to call me a coward.

Simon Darby wrote:
Not really relevant here. The word "coward" is such a strong and emotive word I was keen to see how Geoff defines it. I suspect given the hypothetical circumstances his understanding could be expanded somewhat.

SteveOX4 wrote:
What do Stuart Craft, Peter McVey, and Simon Darby all have in common?

cartamagna wrote:
You can not blame Mr Darby from
"canceling a visit" as Mr Craft is well known to be a far left communist. And going by previous interviews the controlled media
never give the BNP a fair deal .
Ask yourself this question.If the
BNP are so bad why wont the media let them prove it ?

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

cartamagna wrote:
You can not blame Mr Darby from
"canceling a visit" as Mr Craft is well known to be a far left communist. And going by previous interviews the controlled media
never give the BNP a fair deal .
Ask yourself this question.If the
BNP are so bad why wont the media let them prove it ?

Because, as you know, the media use the race card when it suits them. But I do not understand all the abuse given to somebody with only relatively extremist views, when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings, and that homosexuals are an abomination that should be wiped out. That I find very extremist, offensive, and it is illegal, but it goes on everyday unchecked, why?

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

Simon Darby wrote:
Nice story, shame it isn't true. I was never going to Oxford in the first it was simply to be a telephone interview.Here's the email I sent to the radio station on Saturday-

Dear ******,

Word reaches me this morning that rather than an interview with one of your presenters about BNP policy as originally sold to me, Monday's show is to be a "debate" between me and a member of the far left.

Unfortunately the far left don't do "debate" when it come to the BNP. Instead what we will see is an outpouring of hatred, poison and hostility that might make sensationalist radio, but will effectively drag me down to their level.

My time, although ostensibly given freely, is precious to me and I can find alternatives for a Monday morning that do not involve being shouted at, vilified and abused as part of a contrived, confrontational spectacle.

If you had let me know of your intentions in the first place it would have been better, however I'm giving you as much notice as I can so as not to disappoint or inconvenience your listeners.

Simon

Simon, I would suggest at least a "letter to the editor" for the usual misleading and downright awful reporting that we get from the O.M. and possibly a complaint somewhere. You will notice that there is no credit to a "reporter" on this story, so where it came from who knows. The O.M. keeps on telling us how many awards that they win, but never admit to the rubbish and inaccurate reporting that we have to put up with day in day out. Or maybe you could give an interview to a reporter (that is if they actually have one, and don't just take their stories from the web) that would be enlightening, and welcomed by all of us.

cartamagna wrote:
FAO Geoff Roberts

Compulsory ‘political correctness’
Compulsory ‘political correctness’ has four major effects on the individual person: the compulsory suppression of your traditional right to free speech; the strangulation of your own logic and common sense; the compulsory denial of all the negative aspects the Marxist Left have inflicted on Britain and its people over the decades; and perhaps the most sinister aspect of all, the fear compulsory ‘political correctness’ generates if anyone dares to question it or oppose it.

If you don’t want to lose your job or be passed over for promotion, or be insulted, harassed, bullied, victimised or persecuted, then you must become a ‘politically correct’ automaton (anything outside of that and you’ve got trouble on your hands). There is no room in the politically correct world of the Marxist Left for free thinkers, critics or honest, real-world observations (in the same way there is no room in the British National Party for the politically correct brigade). If you want to be a ‘politically correct’ automaton, then be one, but don’t force others to be one if they don’t want it.

Not my words but geoff, think about it!!!!!

Simon Darby wrote:
I'll call you Geoff next time I and six other BNP members have to face down a screaming, violent mob of 1,000 IslamoMarxists as we did at the 2007 Oxford Union debate.

If you can stand by my side, with the police having abandoned us, as they stream into the building shouting threats to kill you, you'll have every right to call me a coward.

DoctorBob wrote:

cartamagna wrote:
FAO Geoff Roberts

Compulsory ‘political correctness’
Compulsory ‘political correctness’ has four major effects on the individual person: the compulsory suppression of your traditional right to free speech; the strangulation of your own logic and common sense; the compulsory denial of all the negative aspects the Marxist Left have inflicted on Britain and its people over the decades; and perhaps the most sinister aspect of all, the fear compulsory ‘political correctness’ generates if anyone dares to question it or oppose it.

If you don’t want to lose your job or be passed over for promotion, or be insulted, harassed, bullied, victimised or persecuted, then you must become a ‘politically correct’ automaton (anything outside of that and you’ve got trouble on your hands). There is no room in the politically correct world of the Marxist Left for free thinkers, critics or honest, real-world observations (in the same way there is no room in the British National Party for the politically correct brigade). If you want to be a ‘politically correct’ automaton, then be one, but don’t force others to be one if they don’t want it.

Not my words but geoff, think about it!!!!!

Whose words are they then?

Come on, come clean and declare your personal allegiance.

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

cartamagna wrote: You can not blame Mr Darby from "canceling a visit" as Mr Craft is well known to be a far left communist. And going by previous interviews the controlled media never give the BNP a fair deal . Ask yourself this question.If the BNP are so bad why wont the media let them prove it ?

Because, as you know, the media use the race card when it suits them. But I do not understand all the abuse given to somebody with only relatively extremist views, when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings, and that homosexuals are an abomination that should be wiped out. That I find very extremist, offensive, and it is illegal, but it goes on everyday unchecked, why?

I would suggest you take your evidence of what sounds like quite appalling incitement and report it to the police. Maybe you could start by telling us where this Mosque is that goes unchecked and has their 'religious leader' say such illegal things? Also you may care to explain how you cannot understand the abuse given to a man that advocates forcible removal of British men, women and children from the country of their birth based on the one thing no one has any control over?

Geoff Roberts wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

cartamagna wrote:
FAO Geoff Roberts

Compulsory ‘political correctness’
Compulsory ‘political correctness’ has four major effects on the individual person: the compulsory suppression of your traditional right to free speech; the strangulation of your own logic and common sense; the compulsory denial of all the negative aspects the Marxist Left have inflicted on Britain and its people over the decades; and perhaps the most sinister aspect of all, the fear compulsory ‘political correctness’ generates if anyone dares to question it or oppose it.

If you don’t want to lose your job or be passed over for promotion, or be insulted, harassed, bullied, victimised or persecuted, then you must become a ‘politically correct’ automaton (anything outside of that and you’ve got trouble on your hands). There is no room in the politically correct world of the Marxist Left for free thinkers, critics or honest, real-world observations (in the same way there is no room in the British National Party for the politically correct brigade). If you want to be a ‘politically correct’ automaton, then be one, but don’t force others to be one if they don’t want it.

Not my words but geoff, think about it!!!!!

Whose words are they then?

Come on, come clean and declare your personal allegiance.

The words were first published 2 days ago on the BNP website in the article about when Keith Allen met Nick Griffin.

cartamagna is quoting from the BNP website.

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

cartamagna wrote: You can not blame Mr Darby from "canceling a visit" as Mr Craft is well known to be a far left communist. And going by previous interviews the controlled media never give the BNP a fair deal . Ask yourself this question.If the BNP are so bad why wont the media let them prove it ?

Because, as you know, the media use the race card when it suits them. But I do not understand all the abuse given to somebody with only relatively extremist views, when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings, and that homosexuals are an abomination that should be wiped out. That I find very extremist, offensive, and it is illegal, but it goes on everyday unchecked, why?

I would suggest you take your evidence of what sounds like quite appalling incitement and report it to the police. Maybe you could start by telling us where this Mosque is that goes unchecked and has their 'religious leader' say such illegal things? Also you may care to explain how you cannot understand the abuse given to a man that advocates forcible removal of British men, women and children from the country of their birth based on the one thing no one has any control over?

Start with East London Mosque, Bobby Lad. You should find enough material to keep you going for a while.

DoctorBob wrote:

Geoff Roberts wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

cartamagna wrote:
FAO Geoff Roberts

Compulsory ‘political correctness’
Compulsory ‘political correctness’ has four major effects on the individual person: the compulsory suppression of your traditional right to free speech; the strangulation of your own logic and common sense; the compulsory denial of all the negative aspects the Marxist Left have inflicted on Britain and its people over the decades; and perhaps the most sinister aspect of all, the fear compulsory ‘political correctness’ generates if anyone dares to question it or oppose it.

If you don’t want to lose your job or be passed over for promotion, or be insulted, harassed, bullied, victimised or persecuted, then you must become a ‘politically correct’ automaton (anything outside of that and you’ve got trouble on your hands). There is no room in the politically correct world of the Marxist Left for free thinkers, critics or honest, real-world observations (in the same way there is no room in the British National Party for the politically correct brigade). If you want to be a ‘politically correct’ automaton, then be one, but don’t force others to be one if they don’t want it.

Not my words but geoff, think about it!!!!!

Whose words are they then?

Come on, come clean and declare your personal allegiance.

The words were first published 2 days ago on the BNP website in the article about when Keith Allen met Nick Griffin.

cartamagna is quoting from the BNP website.

I wanted them to say it, it has more resonance but I doubt they would have played the game.

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:
Well nobody is in prison for various prison offences, and it only took a public outcry after massive coverage in the media before Captain Hook was done after he had committed hundreds of criminal offences. You know the truth and your attempts at a wind up won't work.

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:
Well nobody is in prison for various prison offences, and it only took a public outcry after massive coverage in the media before Captain Hook was done after he had committed hundreds of criminal offences. You know the truth and your attempts at a wind up won't work.

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

RobOxford wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:
Well nobody is in prison for various prison offences, and it only took a public outcry after massive coverage in the media before Captain Hook was done after he had committed hundreds of criminal offences. You know the truth and your attempts at a wind up won't work.

Peter, you do seem to be getting a little vague on the facts now. Perhaps the Sanatogen is taking effect now.

"...when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week" is what you originally said.

You're very happy to harp on about 'the truth', but seem less concerned about actually confronting it.

And just like the BNP, you're only too happy to play the victim card with your "stop winding me up" hand-wringing.

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

Simon Darby wrote:
Nice story, shame it isn't true. I was never going to Oxford in the first it was simply to be a telephone interview.Here's the email I sent to the radio station on Saturday-

Dear ******,

Word reaches me this morning that rather than an interview with one of your presenters about BNP policy as originally sold to me, Monday's show is to be a "debate" between me and a member of the far left.

Unfortunately the far left don't do "debate" when it come to the BNP. Instead what we will see is an outpouring of hatred, poison and hostility that might make sensationalist radio, but will effectively drag me down to their level.

My time, although ostensibly given freely, is precious to me and I can find alternatives for a Monday morning that do not involve being shouted at, vilified and abused as part of a contrived, confrontational spectacle.

If you had let me know of your intentions in the first place it would have been better, however I'm giving you as much notice as I can so as not to disappoint or inconvenience your listeners.

Simon

Simon, I would suggest at least a "letter to the editor" for the usual misleading and downright awful reporting that we get from the O.M. and possibly a complaint somewhere. You will notice that there is no credit to a "reporter" on this story, so where it came from who knows. The O.M. keeps on telling us how many awards that they win, but never admit to the rubbish and inaccurate reporting that we have to put up with day in day out. Or maybe you could give an interview to a reporter (that is if they actually have one, and don't just take their stories from the web) that would be enlightening, and welcomed by all of us.

Since when did you become the spokesperson for "all of us"?

The height of arrogance or delusions of grandeur?

DoctorBob wrote:
I would add, from their manifesto and politics if the BNP ever got into government, well, it's too horrific to even think about.

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

Your understanding could start by reading their manifesto and working your way through the cleverly worded document.

Alternatively put the name John Tyndall BNP (founder of the BNP and the leader before Griffin) into Google images. He's the one in the Naz1 uniform under a Swast1ka flag and a picture of H1tler. 3 down and 2 in.

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

Your understanding could start by reading their manifesto and working your way through the cleverly worded document.

Alternatively put the name John Tyndall BNP (founder of the BNP and the leader before Griffin) into Google images. He's the one in the Naz1 uniform under a Swast1ka flag and a picture of H1tler. 3 down and 2 in.

I have read their manifesto, it's not all that bad, they advocate bringing back the death penalty and bringing a bit of sense back into the immigration laws, it can't be much worse than the 'mainstream' parties, who have saddled us with extreme debt that actually has NOTHING to do with us, contravened our constitution and committed treason on the worst scale imaginable.

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

Your understanding could start by reading their manifesto and working your way through the cleverly worded document.

Alternatively put the name John Tyndall BNP (founder of the BNP and the leader before Griffin) into Google images. He's the one in the Naz1 uniform under a Swast1ka flag and a picture of H1tler. 3 down and 2 in.

I have read their manifesto, it's not all that bad, they advocate bringing back the death penalty and bringing a bit of sense back into the immigration laws, it can't be much worse than the 'mainstream' parties, who have saddled us with extreme debt that actually has NOTHING to do with us, contravened our constitution and committed treason on the worst scale imaginable.

Not all that bad?!?!

What did you make of the suggestion that British men, women and children would be forcibly ejected from their country of birth and sent to a country they've never even been to?

Isn't that 'bad' in your book?

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

RobOxford wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:
Well nobody is in prison for various prison offences, and it only took a public outcry after massive coverage in the media before Captain Hook was done after he had committed hundreds of criminal offences. You know the truth and your attempts at a wind up won't work.

Peter, you do seem to be getting a little vague on the facts now. Perhaps the Sanatogen is taking effect now.

"...when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week" is what you originally said.

You're very happy to harp on about 'the truth', but seem less concerned about actually confronting it.

And just like the BNP, you're only too happy to play the victim card with your "stop winding me up" hand-wringing.

Rob you can pick a mosque (not Oxford because the Muslims here make a very good living and are happy with the status quo (not the band)) any day of the week and find the preachings mentioned above. Much as you could go to any pub anyday of the week favoured by the BNP or the EDL of just generally council estate thickos and find them advocating the reverse, just don't pretend it doesn't happen or exist because you don't go to these places. We have racist people from all walks of life and nationalities and when they congregate we see the results, be it an EDL mob in the Midlands, or Muslims led by Sayful Islam burning the Poppy on remembrance day in Luton, both crimes. But to stop legal free speech as you advocate (even one from a large political party) is wrong. What we need to do is stop racism against all people and not be selective.

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

Your understanding could start by reading their manifesto and working your way through the cleverly worded document.

Alternatively put the name John Tyndall BNP (founder of the BNP and the leader before Griffin) into Google images. He's the one in the Naz1 uniform under a Swast1ka flag and a picture of H1tler. 3 down and 2 in.

I have read their manifesto, it's not all that bad, they advocate bringing back the death penalty and bringing a bit of sense back into the immigration laws, it can't be much worse than the 'mainstream' parties, who have saddled us with extreme debt that actually has NOTHING to do with us, contravened our constitution and committed treason on the worst scale imaginable.

Not all that bad?!?!

What did you make of the suggestion that British men, women and children would be forcibly ejected from their country of birth and sent to a country they've never even been to?

Isn't that 'bad' in your book?

I see there's no comment from you about certain parties committing treason and contravening our constitution. That is infinitely more serious.

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

AlexF wrote:
What I can't understand is the outpouring of hatred towards a democratically elected political party who, if the truth be told, have done a considerable lot less damage to this country than the cabal of criminals in Parliament.
Also, before the hysterical replies might appear, I must say that I am a fairly neutral person when it comes to politics.

Your understanding could start by reading their manifesto and working your way through the cleverly worded document.

Alternatively put the name John Tyndall BNP (founder of the BNP and the leader before Griffin) into Google images. He's the one in the Naz1 uniform under a Swast1ka flag and a picture of H1tler. 3 down and 2 in.

I have read their manifesto, it's not all that bad, they advocate bringing back the death penalty and bringing a bit of sense back into the immigration laws, it can't be much worse than the 'mainstream' parties, who have saddled us with extreme debt that actually has NOTHING to do with us, contravened our constitution and committed treason on the worst scale imaginable.

Not all that bad?!?!

What did you make of the suggestion that British men, women and children would be forcibly ejected from their country of birth and sent to a country they've never even been to?

Isn't that 'bad' in your book?

I see there's no comment from you about certain parties committing treason and contravening our constitution. That is infinitely more serious.

AlexF wrote:
Anyway, Doctor Bob, have fun pontificating on this website, I'm off to do things in the outside world, because I have a life.

RobOxford wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

RobOxford wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:
Well nobody is in prison for various prison offences, and it only took a public outcry after massive coverage in the media before Captain Hook was done after he had committed hundreds of criminal offences. You know the truth and your attempts at a wind up won't work.

Peter, you do seem to be getting a little vague on the facts now. Perhaps the Sanatogen is taking effect now.

"...when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week" is what you originally said.

You're very happy to harp on about 'the truth', but seem less concerned about actually confronting it.

And just like the BNP, you're only too happy to play the victim card with your "stop winding me up" hand-wringing.

Rob you can pick a mosque (not Oxford because the Muslims here make a very good living and are happy with the status quo (not the band)) any day of the week and find the preachings mentioned above. Much as you could go to any pub anyday of the week favoured by the BNP or the EDL of just generally council estate thickos and find them advocating the reverse, just don't pretend it doesn't happen or exist because you don't go to these places. We have racist people from all walks of life and nationalities and when they congregate we see the results, be it an EDL mob in the Midlands, or Muslims led by Sayful Islam burning the Poppy on remembrance day in Luton, both crimes. But to stop legal free speech as you advocate (even one from a large political party) is wrong. What we need to do is stop racism against all people and not be selective.

Peter, you're putting words into my mouth to suit your own self-righteous bile.
Where did I advocate stopping legal free speech?
I'd just rather people on here didn't dress their opinions up as indisputable facts.

I'm well aware bigotry is rife everywhere, especially in OX2 6EG. 'Council estate thickos' - you have such a delightful turn of phrase.
Tell me Peter, is there any group of people who you don't despise?
Happy Easter one and all!

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
"No one is better than anyone."Wow Ox-cabby , you've certainly put us all right then. Do I assume that when one of your fares refuses to pay, hits you, or smashes your cab you don't go to police because to see him in court would suggest that, as someone who doesn't behave like that you might be (perish the thought) better than him? Och awa wi ye , ye silly burdle.

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Here my dear Peter.

"..when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings..."

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Here my dear Peter.

"..when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings..."

No mention of race there. An reference to religion and to people of my colour and place of abode. But not to any race.

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Here my dear Peter.

"..when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings..."

No mention of race there. An reference to religion and to people of my colour and place of abode. But not to any race.

Okay Peter, I'll play your little game. You appear not to be using the anthropological definition of race yet John Terry was questioned by the police about saying what exactly?

Aside from your attempts at avoidance why have you said that Muslims were saying kill White people and blow up their buildings? You are just making stuff up Peter that coincidentally fits in with your own prejudices and argument.

I challenge you to produce one scrap of evidence that anybody in a Mosque in this country has ever called for the deaths of White people?

Your statement is nonsense and illogical considering there are hundreds of thousands of White Muslims in this country and millions worldwide.

Your pathetic attempt at equating Muslim with non White is straight out of Simon Darby and the BNP's book of how to exploit weaker laws on religious hatred to attack black people.

StaceyHume wrote:
Seems certain other people like to spin yarn or two as well which is nothing new to the left wing or those who think they hold the moral high ground.

Fact is I've read the BNP policies and manifestos and more importantly Sky News conducted a survey where those same policies were voted on. 50% + agreed with them.

StaceyHume wrote:
The FACT is I have read the BNP policies and manifesto and had you read them you'd know the only person spouting pathetic bile and falsehoods is you.

From Sky news:-

"A Sky News poll has revealed widespread public support for many of the BNP's policies"

StaceyHume wrote:
Care to find any proof of that or are you going to keep making it up as you go along?

Try again shall we? :-

"A Sky News poll has revealed widespread public support for """MANY""" of the BNP's policies".

Yes fortunately we can all use Google and fortunately those of us who have experience and understanding know that it is a search engine not the bible according to some no-mark.

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Here my dear Peter.

"..when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings..."

No mention of race there. An reference to religion and to people of my colour and place of abode. But not to any race.

Okay Peter, I'll play your little game. You appear not to be using the anthropological definition of race yet John Terry was questioned by the police about saying what exactly?

Aside from your attempts at avoidance why have you said that Muslims were saying kill White people and blow up their buildings? You are just making stuff up Peter that coincidentally fits in with your own prejudices and argument.

I challenge you to produce one scrap of evidence that anybody in a Mosque in this country has ever called for the deaths of White people?

Your statement is nonsense and illogical considering there are hundreds of thousands of White Muslims in this country and millions worldwide.

Your pathetic attempt at equating Muslim with non White is straight out of Simon Darby and the BNP's book of how to exploit weaker laws on religious hatred to attack black people.

Abu Hamza ON NON-MUSLIMS (KAFIRS)

"Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason, you can say it, it is OK - even if there is no reason for it". That is my last word on this BOB and Ox cabby. Either I made the above up, or it seems to me that killing for no reason is ok.

museli wrote:

StaceyHume wrote:
Care to find any proof of that or are you going to keep making it up as you go along?

Try again shall we? :-

"A Sky News poll has revealed widespread public support for """MANY""" of the BNP's policies".

Yes fortunately we can all use Google and fortunately those of us who have experience and understanding know that it is a search engine not the bible according to some no-mark.

??? why don't you try scrolling up 5 posts to what you posted 10pm yesterday which I was replying to.

I've made no statements to prove - I was just debunking you post repeating BNP propaganda. That done I'll leave you to rant away to your hearts content.

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:

L0RD PETER McVEY OX2 6EG wrote:

DoctorBob wrote:
Peter my dear Peter, everyone can see that in the absence of fact and logic you have now resorted to throwing flailing blind punches in the desperate hope one of them will land.

Your tactic of smear, insult and negative labeling changes the validity of your argument not one jot. The argument remains the same, it does not get stronger because you have attempted to place me lower down than you in what you perceive as negative social standing.

I did have to laugh though at your attempt to paint me as a rich man when it's you that gave yourself the name Lord.

My Lord, do you think that only rich people can deconstruct your argument and put a logical coherent counter argument?

I bet you doth your cap to yourself don't you, lol?

You have in this thread sla66ed off the Working Class and managed to make racist claims as well.

Bobby Boy, please quote where I have made Racist claims please. I have checked the list and can't find one. Help me out on this one.

Here my dear Peter.

"..when you can go to a Mosque any day of the week and find a "religious leader" telling his followers to kill white westerners, blow up their buildings..."

No mention of race there. An reference to religion and to people of my colour and place of abode. But not to any race.

Okay Peter, I'll play your little game. You appear not to be using the anthropological definition of race yet John Terry was questioned by the police about saying what exactly?

Aside from your attempts at avoidance why have you said that Muslims were saying kill White people and blow up their buildings? You are just making stuff up Peter that coincidentally fits in with your own prejudices and argument.

I challenge you to produce one scrap of evidence that anybody in a Mosque in this country has ever called for the deaths of White people?

Your statement is nonsense and illogical considering there are hundreds of thousands of White Muslims in this country and millions worldwide.

Your pathetic attempt at equating Muslim with non White is straight out of Simon Darby and the BNP's book of how to exploit weaker laws on religious hatred to attack black people.

Abu Hamza ON NON-MUSLIMS (KAFIRS)

"Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason, you can say it, it is OK - even if there is no reason for it". That is my last word on this BOB and Ox cabby. Either I made the above up, or it seems to me that killing for no reason is ok.

Peter, the most entertaining thing about idiots is their abject failure to realise their stupidity.

In your case. it leads to much merriment watching you shine an even brighter light on that stupidity with each and every new post of yours.

I ' l l t y p e t h i s s l o w l y j u s t f o r y o u . A k a f f i r m e a n s n o n M u s l i m
y o u c o m p l e t e f u g g i n M u p p e t . I t d o e s n o t m e a n a w h i t e p e r s o n.

L O L.