Safety first plea at crash roundabout

The Oxford Times: Nick Cotter, left, and Les Sibley at the Vendee Drive roundabout, which keeps being hit by cars Buy this photo Nick Cotter, left, and Les Sibley at the Vendee Drive roundabout, which keeps being hit by cars

PLANS for more signs and road markings by a roundabout plagued by accidents do not go far enough, Bicester councillors have said.

Oxfordshire County Council is to install bigger speed limit signs and chevrons on the approach to the roundabout at the junction of the A41 and Vendee Drive.

It was installed on the dual carriageway A41 in 2011 but has been the site of a series of accidents. Vehicles have hit signs, damaged brickwork, uprooted trees and left skid marks in their wake.

In 2011 four men were seriously injured when their car hit the roundabout and overturned, leaving two paralysed.

The driver, Joshan Anwar, 30, was jailed for 15 months in January last year after admitting dangerous driving and driving while over the legal alcohol limit.

Members of Bicester Town Council say the county council’s plans are inadequate.

They want road markings and rumble strips installed on the approaches as well.

Independent Nick Cotter said that last month he saw a BMW on top of the roundabout which then reversed and sped off, leaving parts at the scene.

Fellow councillor Les Sibley said drivers were still exceeding the 60mph and 40mph speed limits approaching the junction.

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He said: “There’s been lorries and cars and all sorts going down the A41 too fast and then they hit the roundabout.

“It’s wrecked the roundabout completely.

“This is probably the prime gateway into Bicester, so if it’s all smashed up it gives a bad impression of the town.

“It’s not only an eyesore but it’s fast becoming an accident blackspot.”

There are also concerns over a tight left hand turn buses will make when a new park and ride is built off the roundabout.

Mr Cotter said: “My concern about all of this, is that not only is this a really shabby first view of Bicester, but with the proposed new park and ride involving a very sharp left turn off this roundabout, the highway safety issues are very concerning.”

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6:29pm Tue 8 Apr 14

PK Nuts says...

The location of the roundabout when approaching from the M40 is wrong. There is too much of a turn, which is causing the accidents, along with driver error. Inbound the angle is sharp, out bound it is a straight line. Road planners - look at the location, position and angles for the inbound approach and make them smoother to reduce accidents.
The location of the roundabout when approaching from the M40 is wrong. There is too much of a turn, which is causing the accidents, along with driver error. Inbound the angle is sharp, out bound it is a straight line. Road planners - look at the location, position and angles for the inbound approach and make them smoother to reduce accidents. PK Nuts
  • Score: 1

10:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Rob Carter says...

For one, the speed on the dual carriageway approaching the roundabout is 70 mph NOT 60mph before it drops to 40 mph. Secondly there are nineteen signs on the approach to that roundabout. better education is the only way forward make the driving test for motorist harder.
For one, the speed on the dual carriageway approaching the roundabout is 70 mph NOT 60mph before it drops to 40 mph. Secondly there are nineteen signs on the approach to that roundabout. better education is the only way forward make the driving test for motorist harder. Rob Carter
  • Score: 2

8:29am Wed 9 Apr 14

The racer says...

If you will build a curving approach to a dual-carriageway roundabout... it's more than average driver can cope with. As Rob Carter says, better driver education is the way forward but it won't help the current population.
If you will build a curving approach to a dual-carriageway roundabout... it's more than average driver can cope with. As Rob Carter says, better driver education is the way forward but it won't help the current population. The racer
  • Score: 1

9:41am Wed 9 Apr 14

hagar1 says...

What is needed is upgrades to SatNAvs!! Once again, we the public have to pay for idiots who drive too fast. Anybody who crashes into this roundabout should have to pay for the damage!
What is needed is upgrades to SatNAvs!! Once again, we the public have to pay for idiots who drive too fast. Anybody who crashes into this roundabout should have to pay for the damage! hagar1
  • Score: 0

9:42am Wed 9 Apr 14

hagar1 says...

By the way - do we really need a photograph of batman and Robin every time they open their mouths?
By the way - do we really need a photograph of batman and Robin every time they open their mouths? hagar1
  • Score: 2

11:13am Wed 9 Apr 14

keepyerheaddown says...

If people stuck to the speed limit of 40mph this would stop drivers not being able to negotiate a simple obstacle
If people stuck to the speed limit of 40mph this would stop drivers not being able to negotiate a simple obstacle keepyerheaddown
  • Score: 2

12:51pm Wed 9 Apr 14

snert says...

This roundabout is pooorly designed and positioned. Regardless of the drivers skill, which these days for many leaves a lot to be desired, the roundabout is in the wrong place. It is off centred which was the most stupid idea possible. From the M40 to Bicester is a 70mph limit, not 60mph, reducing to 40mph. More signs aren't going to help as people will still approach it too fast and the angle onto the roundabout is too steep. The left curve onto it needs to be brought backwards, further up the road to reduce the steepness of the approach road.

From Bicester, the 40mph is just a perfect spot to put stupidly low speed like that after a poorly designed traffic light crossing. The road from Bicester to the M40 shouldn't have that crossing at all and it should be 50. Now, 3 lanes on that right bend forcing the driver into 2 lanes at the other end. Dumb. Just plain dumb. Where the entry onto the roundabout occurs, the right bend is far to steep to have to pull left to go around the roundabout.

Looking at the A41 roundabout from the flyover, you have 3 lanes exiting across to 3 lanes where the right hand filter lane is about 15 feet long which is far too short and simply dangerous.

I'm no civil engineer but I could have built this from lego and explained to the "experts" where the problems were going to be.
This roundabout is pooorly designed and positioned. Regardless of the drivers skill, which these days for many leaves a lot to be desired, the roundabout is in the wrong place. It is off centred which was the most stupid idea possible. From the M40 to Bicester is a 70mph limit, not 60mph, reducing to 40mph. More signs aren't going to help as people will still approach it too fast and the angle onto the roundabout is too steep. The left curve onto it needs to be brought backwards, further up the road to reduce the steepness of the approach road. From Bicester, the 40mph is just a perfect spot to put stupidly low speed like that after a poorly designed traffic light crossing. The road from Bicester to the M40 shouldn't have that crossing at all and it should be 50. Now, 3 lanes on that right bend forcing the driver into 2 lanes at the other end. Dumb. Just plain dumb. Where the entry onto the roundabout occurs, the right bend is far to steep to have to pull left to go around the roundabout. Looking at the A41 roundabout from the flyover, you have 3 lanes exiting across to 3 lanes where the right hand filter lane is about 15 feet long which is far too short and simply dangerous. I'm no civil engineer but I could have built this from lego and explained to the "experts" where the problems were going to be. snert
  • Score: 2

7:05pm Wed 9 Apr 14

tired99 says...

hagar1 wrote:
By the way - do we really need a photograph of batman and Robin every time they open their mouths?
Why pay for your own election campaign when the press will do it for you? About time Sam McGregor stopped being such a lazy journalist and started asking the people of Bicester what they think rather than the two egomaniacs photographed!
[quote][p][bold]hagar1[/bold] wrote: By the way - do we really need a photograph of batman and Robin every time they open their mouths?[/p][/quote]Why pay for your own election campaign when the press will do it for you? About time Sam McGregor stopped being such a lazy journalist and started asking the people of Bicester what they think rather than the two egomaniacs photographed! tired99
  • Score: 0

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