Oxford Stadium campaigners celebrate conservation area ruling

The Oxford Times: Oxford Stadium campaigners celebrate conservation area ruling Oxford Stadium campaigners celebrate conservation area ruling

OXFORD Stadium has been given more protection against developers as councillors voted through plans to list it as a conservation area.

The greyhound and speedway stadium in Sandy Lane was designated a conservation area at Oxford City Council’s City Executive Board in Oxford Town Hall.

A government planning inspector will hear evidence on Galliard Homes’ plans to bulldoze the stadium to build 220 homes from September 9.

But campaigners hope the move will make it harder for the developers to get permission to knock it down.

Save Oxford Stadium campaigner David Martin, 49, of Peat Moors, Headington, said: "I am very happy but it is what we expected after all the support we have been given in the last 16 months.

Councillor Colin Cook said: "I am really proud we have designated this site as a conservation area.

"I think the community value of this site is enormous."

The stadium was closed in December 2012. Oxford City Council rejected Galliard’s plans in January, but the developer launched an appeal to the planning inspectorate.

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8:27pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Dilligaf2010 says...

The mind boggles, if there had been the same level of support for the facilities before they closed, they would probably still be open.......
.......there's always uproar when a local business closes, but if the locals had kept said businesses profitable, they wouldn't close.
The mind boggles, if there had been the same level of support for the facilities before they closed, they would probably still be open....... .......there's always uproar when a local business closes, but if the locals had kept said businesses profitable, they wouldn't close. Dilligaf2010
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9:51pm Wed 9 Apr 14

RegisteringSucks says...

Because killing greyhounds for the benefit of scummy gamblers is an English tradition..
Because killing greyhounds for the benefit of scummy gamblers is an English tradition.. RegisteringSucks
  • Score: -1

10:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

rodtrotter says...

Support was and always has been at the stadium, I attended sports at the stadium for many of years and see the dwindling attitude that the present owners had, with parties interested in purchasing the stadium it must be seen as a profitable concern so the mind does boggle! I think you will find that the present owners ran the stadium into the ground and always wanted to flatten and build property on the land. I for one would love to see the stadium open again.
Support was and always has been at the stadium, I attended sports at the stadium for many of years and see the dwindling attitude that the present owners had, with parties interested in purchasing the stadium it must be seen as a profitable concern so the mind does boggle! I think you will find that the present owners ran the stadium into the ground and always wanted to flatten and build property on the land. I for one would love to see the stadium open again. rodtrotter
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10:40pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Miss Cynical says...

Phew. Thank Goodness we've just made it even harder to provide more homes which the city so desperately needs. We couldn't go putting homes on a brownfield site surrounded by housing...

I look forward to the debates about alternative locations where these homes should be built.

And I look forward to returning to the stadium. Oh, wait,it's shut.
Phew. Thank Goodness we've just made it even harder to provide more homes which the city so desperately needs. We couldn't go putting homes on a brownfield site surrounded by housing... I look forward to the debates about alternative locations where these homes should be built. And I look forward to returning to the stadium. Oh, wait,it's shut. Miss Cynical
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11:05pm Wed 9 Apr 14

rodtrotter says...

Miss Cynical wrote:
Phew. Thank Goodness we've just made it even harder to provide more homes which the city so desperately needs. We couldn't go putting homes on a brownfield site surrounded by housing...

I look forward to the debates about alternative locations where these homes should be built.

And I look forward to returning to the stadium. Oh, wait,it's shut.
There are 100s of homes for sale in Oxford at the moment so do we actually need anymore? They won't exactly be giving them away - will they? Build a small dwelling in your back garden like many others....
[quote][p][bold]Miss Cynical[/bold] wrote: Phew. Thank Goodness we've just made it even harder to provide more homes which the city so desperately needs. We couldn't go putting homes on a brownfield site surrounded by housing... I look forward to the debates about alternative locations where these homes should be built. And I look forward to returning to the stadium. Oh, wait,it's shut.[/p][/quote]There are 100s of homes for sale in Oxford at the moment so do we actually need anymore? They won't exactly be giving them away - will they? Build a small dwelling in your back garden like many others.... rodtrotter
  • Score: 6

12:19am Thu 10 Apr 14

bishbosh says...

This is fantastic news...well done the local authority who have not sold out on developers money. The local authority is responsible for planning and their decisions should be respected. The owners GRA should now sell and let the promoters get on with providing a valuable source of local entertainment. Oxford has plenty of housing.
This is fantastic news...well done the local authority who have not sold out on developers money. The local authority is responsible for planning and their decisions should be respected. The owners GRA should now sell and let the promoters get on with providing a valuable source of local entertainment. Oxford has plenty of housing. bishbosh
  • Score: 0

12:27am Thu 10 Apr 14

bishbosh says...

Affordable housing is a myth...the only reason a massive property developer like Galliard want to build is to make a healthy profit, Is it worth losing a source of local entertainment and all those jobs/ No. Galliard/GRA/Risk Capital owe 50 million to NAMA why should that have an adverse effect on Oxford
Affordable housing is a myth...the only reason a massive property developer like Galliard want to build is to make a healthy profit, Is it worth losing a source of local entertainment and all those jobs/ No. Galliard/GRA/Risk Capital owe 50 million to NAMA why should that have an adverse effect on Oxford bishbosh
  • Score: 4

2:07am Thu 10 Apr 14

HomerSimpsonDoh says...

According to Miss Cynical we should flatten all leisure places and build on them. So no cinemas, bowling, football, cricket, play areas!!! Doh
According to Miss Cynical we should flatten all leisure places and build on them. So no cinemas, bowling, football, cricket, play areas!!! Doh HomerSimpsonDoh
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8:58am Thu 10 Apr 14

bishbosh says...

The stadium is closed because it is worth more as housing for the owners than the steady income stream it once provided. That does not mean it was not viable...just not viable enough for the owners trying to service a massive 50 million debt. Closing it and letting it rot gives the impression of a failed business aiding a change of planning use just like many stadiums before.
The stadium is closed because it is worth more as housing for the owners than the steady income stream it once provided. That does not mean it was not viable...just not viable enough for the owners trying to service a massive 50 million debt. Closing it and letting it rot gives the impression of a failed business aiding a change of planning use just like many stadiums before. bishbosh
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9:01am Thu 10 Apr 14

Andrew:Oxford says...

bishbosh wrote:
Affordable housing is a myth...the only reason a massive property developer like Galliard want to build is to make a healthy profit, Is it worth losing a source of local entertainment and all those jobs/ No. Galliard/GRA/Risk Capital owe 50 million to NAMA why should that have an adverse effect on Oxford
The interest on the loan is offset against other income. As long as the debt is serviceable - then it isn't really an issue.

NAMA has just sold off a large section of UK debt to Cerberus Capital Management. Land in Oxford is essentially a AAA asset and fantastic security for a loan that has historically, over a 10 year period, only ever increased in value.

No matter how people may protest otherwise, "doing nothing" with land in Oxford is an effective strategy. There is plenty of evidence - Oxford colleges have done it for at least 700 years.,
[quote][p][bold]bishbosh[/bold] wrote: Affordable housing is a myth...the only reason a massive property developer like Galliard want to build is to make a healthy profit, Is it worth losing a source of local entertainment and all those jobs/ No. Galliard/GRA/Risk Capital owe 50 million to NAMA why should that have an adverse effect on Oxford[/p][/quote]The interest on the loan is offset against other income. As long as the debt is serviceable - then it isn't really an issue. NAMA has just sold off a large section of UK debt to Cerberus Capital Management. Land in Oxford is essentially a AAA asset and fantastic security for a loan that has historically, over a 10 year period, only ever increased in value. No matter how people may protest otherwise, "doing nothing" with land in Oxford is an effective strategy. There is plenty of evidence - Oxford colleges have done it for at least 700 years., Andrew:Oxford
  • Score: 3

10:24am Thu 10 Apr 14

Miss Cynical says...

HomerSimpsonDoh wrote:
According to Miss Cynical we should flatten all leisure places and build on them. So no cinemas, bowling, football, cricket, play areas!!! Doh
I don't think my post actually said anything like that, actually. The stadium is not a functioning leisure centre - it is closed. It is an uninspiring brownfield site which is currently not being used for any useful purpose. I haven't seen many kids playing footie on it recently.

On another note, I really don't see why people have such a problem with others making money. Maybe they did want to sell it for housing. Maybe they had a rubbish time running it as a stadium and having worked hard, they thought they would sell their land and earn a few quid. I don't see anything wrong with that - that's capitalism and everyone who has a job is part of the same system.

This ideological idea of victory is nonsense. Even if the developers are stopped, then what on Earth is going to happen to that site? You cannot make someone run a greyhound stadium if they don't want to! They're going to appeal, and most likely, they will win.

As for no shortage of houses, the Council is required by the Government to build hundreds more. If they don't go here, they will go somewhere else, and then we will have the NIMBY brigade to deal with.
[quote][p][bold]HomerSimpsonDoh[/bold] wrote: According to Miss Cynical we should flatten all leisure places and build on them. So no cinemas, bowling, football, cricket, play areas!!! Doh[/p][/quote]I don't think my post actually said anything like that, actually. The stadium is not a functioning leisure centre - it is closed. It is an uninspiring brownfield site which is currently not being used for any useful purpose. I haven't seen many kids playing footie on it recently. On another note, I really don't see why people have such a problem with others making money. Maybe they did want to sell it for housing. Maybe they had a rubbish time running it as a stadium and having worked hard, they thought they would sell their land and earn a few quid. I don't see anything wrong with that - that's capitalism and everyone who has a job is part of the same system. This ideological idea of victory is nonsense. Even if the developers are stopped, then what on Earth is going to happen to that site? You cannot make someone run a greyhound stadium if they don't want to! They're going to appeal, and most likely, they will win. As for no shortage of houses, the Council is required by the Government to build hundreds more. If they don't go here, they will go somewhere else, and then we will have the NIMBY brigade to deal with. Miss Cynical
  • Score: -1

6:53pm Thu 10 Apr 14

bishbosh says...

Land banking...a nice little earner. This is the point. The future of greyhound stadiums in Oxford, Wimbledon, Perry Bar, Hall Green and Belle Vue are in the hands of the venture capitalists who make money passing the debt around. Oxford Council are a breath of fresh air as they have not taken the developers money like many other councils and want the right balance for the community.
Land banking...a nice little earner. This is the point. The future of greyhound stadiums in Oxford, Wimbledon, Perry Bar, Hall Green and Belle Vue are in the hands of the venture capitalists who make money passing the debt around. Oxford Council are a breath of fresh air as they have not taken the developers money like many other councils and want the right balance for the community. bishbosh
  • Score: 2

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