Oxford United boss Chris Wilder holds Portsmouth talks

The Oxford Times: Chris Wilder pictured before Oxford United's 1-1 draw with Fleetwood on Saturday Chris Wilder pictured before Oxford United's 1-1 draw with Fleetwood on Saturday

CHRIS Wilder met with representatives of Portsmouth’s board yesterday after Oxford United gave their manager permission to talk.

The 46-year-old was one of several candidates interviewed in Newbury as Pompey stepped up their search for a new boss, after sacking Guy Whittingham last week.

With the south coast side not expected to conclude the process for a couple of days, Wilder now has the task of preparing for United’s rearranged FA Cup first-round replay at Gates-head tomorrow.

Routine pre-match interviews are due to take place before the U’s squad head north this morning, but Wilder is unlikely to attend.

The meeting with Portsmouth came shortly after United broke their silence on the situation yesterday lunchtime.

In announcing the decision, United owner Ian Lenagan stressed the club wanted to keep Wilder.

He said: “We have allowed Chris Wilder to speak to Portsmouth, partly out of respect for Chris’s long service at Oxford United and partly because we want our manager to be at Oxford United because he has the desire to be here, not because we prevent him speaking to other clubs.

“Chris and I have been entirely straightforward with each other and from the board’s point of view we have made it abundantly clear that we want him to continue doing the good job he has been doing at Oxford United.”

Although Portsmouth trail the Sky Bet League Two leaders by 13 points and 16 places, the high profile of the 2008 FA Cup winners was shown by the fact ‘Wilder’ trended on Twitter after the statement was released.

Lenagan also revealed his displeasure at the way the news of the approach had broken after United’s 1-1 draw with Fleetwood Town.

The U’s chairman, who said in a radio interview on Saturday night he had not heard from Portsmouth, felt the south coast club had not acted correctly.

He said: “There are ways of doing these things properly, and we feel that the timing of the approach by Portsmouth, and the leaking of that approach on a matchday – whoever was responsible for that – was not doing things properly.

“It is a tribute to Chris Wilder’s professionalism that he remained 100 per cent focused on the job at hand, but I will be writing to Portsmouth’s board about what happened.”

Richie Barker, who was sacked by Crawley Town last week, and Wilder are vying for favouritism with bookmakers for the Portsmouth job.

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12:25pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Sid Snakey says...

A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension.

Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract.

Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football.

Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later.
A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension. Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract. Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football. Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later. Sid Snakey

1:24pm Wed 4 Dec 13

yabbadabbadoo256 says...

Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract..
Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract.. yabbadabbadoo256

1:26pm Wed 4 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

The interviews are being held today in Newbury, lets home by 18.00 hours he has signed on the dotted line and vacates his office asap.
The interviews are being held today in Newbury, lets home by 18.00 hours he has signed on the dotted line and vacates his office asap. BigAlBiker

1:47pm Wed 4 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

Sky Sports News report that Chris Wilder and Richie Barker are joint favourites for the job, lets hope Barker has a crap interview then.
Sky Sports News report that Chris Wilder and Richie Barker are joint favourites for the job, lets hope Barker has a crap interview then. BigAlBiker

2:51pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Taff Ewe says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension. Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract. Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football. Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later.
You talk much sense Sid. Unlike some hee haw's on here.

The one advantage this time is that there are some very good manager out of work, that have been successful very recently. Unfortunately, club chairmen and boards have VERY short memories and seem to these ignore managers. You are only worth any salt it appears if you are doing well at this precise matter in time it would seem.

12 months ago, Martin Allen would have been on everyones lips as a potential candidate to manage their club in the lower leagues, but now he has barely been mentioned on here.

He would be my favourite to finish the job off here, but I think that Portsmouth would be crazy not to take him themselves. Solid, been there and tight. Portsmouth need to get the basics right or they could be in trouble. CW would not be able to steady the ship as quickly I fear and that may spell doom for them.
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension. Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract. Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football. Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later.[/p][/quote]You talk much sense Sid. Unlike some hee haw's on here. The one advantage this time is that there are some very good manager out of work, that have been successful very recently. Unfortunately, club chairmen and boards have VERY short memories and seem to these ignore managers. You are only worth any salt it appears if you are doing well at this precise matter in time it would seem. 12 months ago, Martin Allen would have been on everyones lips as a potential candidate to manage their club in the lower leagues, but now he has barely been mentioned on here. He would be my favourite to finish the job off here, but I think that Portsmouth would be crazy not to take him themselves. Solid, been there and tight. Portsmouth need to get the basics right or they could be in trouble. CW would not be able to steady the ship as quickly I fear and that may spell doom for them. Taff Ewe

3:26pm Wed 4 Dec 13

OUFC90 says...

I would like Wilder to stay, we're top of the league and finally have a good chance of promotion so there's no need for a change now.
However, I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go and get a longer contract, but if he doesn't get the job where do we go from there? It will be rather unsettling for the team and a couple of bad results could see us struggling. So I think now he's spoke to them it might be best if he went.

Pompey fans make me laugh though, they are living a few years back, I think they need to realise attendances aren't everything and they actually a mediocre league two team now! It's going to take a long time to build the club back up, and I can't see Wilder being at the forefront of that!

Back to Oxford, if Wilder goes who do we think we'll get/ who would you like? I think it will be a manager out of work, I can't see us paying compo to anyone! I guess the same names will be mentioned: Richie Barker, Martin Allen, Paul Tisdale, Sean O'Driscoll, Di Canio (Hah just kiddin).
I would like Wilder to stay, we're top of the league and finally have a good chance of promotion so there's no need for a change now. However, I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go and get a longer contract, but if he doesn't get the job where do we go from there? It will be rather unsettling for the team and a couple of bad results could see us struggling. So I think now he's spoke to them it might be best if he went. Pompey fans make me laugh though, they are living a few years back, I think they need to realise attendances aren't everything and they actually a mediocre league two team now! It's going to take a long time to build the club back up, and I can't see Wilder being at the forefront of that! Back to Oxford, if Wilder goes who do we think we'll get/ who would you like? I think it will be a manager out of work, I can't see us paying compo to anyone! I guess the same names will be mentioned: Richie Barker, Martin Allen, Paul Tisdale, Sean O'Driscoll, Di Canio (Hah just kiddin). OUFC90

3:28pm Wed 4 Dec 13

London_Ox says...

If the opposing club didn't act correctly in approach originally, why did Lenagan then grant permission to Wilder to speak to them. This will set precedent for future Managers of Oxford United, in terms of fill your boots, tap our man up, we are a soft touch..
If the opposing club didn't act correctly in approach originally, why did Lenagan then grant permission to Wilder to speak to them. This will set precedent for future Managers of Oxford United, in terms of fill your boots, tap our man up, we are a soft touch.. London_Ox

4:24pm Wed 4 Dec 13

dave from witney says...

London_Ox wrote:
If the opposing club didn't act correctly in approach originally, why did Lenagan then grant permission to Wilder to speak to them. This will set precedent for future Managers of Oxford United, in terms of fill your boots, tap our man up, we are a soft touch..
May be I am in the minority, but I feel Ian Lenagan has dealt with this in the best way he could have.
[quote][p][bold]London_Ox[/bold] wrote: If the opposing club didn't act correctly in approach originally, why did Lenagan then grant permission to Wilder to speak to them. This will set precedent for future Managers of Oxford United, in terms of fill your boots, tap our man up, we are a soft touch..[/p][/quote]May be I am in the minority, but I feel Ian Lenagan has dealt with this in the best way he could have. dave from witney

4:49pm Wed 4 Dec 13

martico1 says...

Yes dave - agree totally. IL can still make it worth CW's while to stay.
Good stuff from Sid and Taff also. The CW critics keep posting but the OxMail poll showed they are in a small minority that will not get bigger how ever many times they repeat themselves!
It's a tough job being a League 2 manager: look at Adie Boothroyd's struggles at Northampton e.g. We've got one of the best available and need to think very hard before we wish him out of the door, Big Al (and others)
Yes dave - agree totally. IL can still make it worth CW's while to stay. Good stuff from Sid and Taff also. The CW critics keep posting but the OxMail poll showed they are in a small minority that will not get bigger how ever many times they repeat themselves! It's a tough job being a League 2 manager: look at Adie Boothroyd's struggles at Northampton e.g. We've got one of the best available and need to think very hard before we wish him out of the door, Big Al (and others) martico1

4:58pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Sid Snakey says...

@dave from witney

I agree actually, I don't think Lenegan or Wilder have done anything particularly wrong in this. I think Lenegan was entitled to give Wilder a short contract to try and push him a bit harder and as a response to the perennial "vocal minority" (also known as "fans who lack clue").

He has treated a long serving manager fairly, and not stood in his way, and I think Wilder is more than entitled to seek more secure employment elsewhere. Asking loyalty from Wilder is nonsense, given a section of "fans who lack clue" desperately want him sacked.

You can only assume that Lenegan feels the risk of giving Wilder a contract extension now (and then being stuck with an unpopular manager if we fall away at the end of the season again) is greater than the risk of switching manager now, when we can maybe attract someone a bit more interesting given our league position.

Lenegan's last managerial appointment worked out very well - he got the right man for the job, no question. Let's hope he can do it again if necessary.

And if you do go Chris, best of luck at Pompey - you've been a great manager for us.
@dave from witney I agree actually, I don't think Lenegan or Wilder have done anything particularly wrong in this. I think Lenegan was entitled to give Wilder a short contract to try and push him a bit harder and as a response to the perennial "vocal minority" (also known as "fans who lack clue"). He has treated a long serving manager fairly, and not stood in his way, and I think Wilder is more than entitled to seek more secure employment elsewhere. Asking loyalty from Wilder is nonsense, given a section of "fans who lack clue" desperately want him sacked. You can only assume that Lenegan feels the risk of giving Wilder a contract extension now (and then being stuck with an unpopular manager if we fall away at the end of the season again) is greater than the risk of switching manager now, when we can maybe attract someone a bit more interesting given our league position. Lenegan's last managerial appointment worked out very well - he got the right man for the job, no question. Let's hope he can do it again if necessary. And if you do go Chris, best of luck at Pompey - you've been a great manager for us. Sid Snakey

5:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

disco80 says...

IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!!
IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!! disco80

5:44pm Wed 4 Dec 13

hokuspokus says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension.

Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract.

Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football.

Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later.
Ian Atkins did not jump ship to Bristol Rovers. Kassam refused to discuss a new contract with him even though he only had a few months remaining, largely because his focus was on doing things on the cheap.

Atkins agreed a contract with Bristol Rovers for the following season, Kassam spat his dummy, sacked him for disloyalty, brought in the woeful Rix (6 wins from 29) and the rest is history.

Atkins got us from a finish of 21st in 01/02 to the automatic promotion and playoff places for most of the next season. After his dismissal we lost form and ended the season outside the playoffs.

A decade (and 4 Conference seasons) later and we MIGHT finally escape the basement division from the right end this season. Ian Atkins favoured route one and it was not the prettiest to watch, but was sacked when we were riding high. Chris Wilder also has many faults BUT now is not the time to lose him.

The biggest difference this time round and the reason for some degree of confidence that if he does go we won't end up with Rix and Co and another 10 years is that this time the Chairman is Ian Lenagan and not Firoz Kassam. COYY.
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: A number of people have been talking about 2004 when Ian Atkins was heading towards the end of his contract with Oxford, and so jumped ship to Bristol Rovers, who were near the bottom of the league, despite Oxford being near the top of the table. It was a very similar situation with Kassam wanting to wait to see whether Atkins achieved promotion before invoking the contract extension. Then, as now, the Oxford manager didn't want to wait - he wanted the guarantee of a job and so took a new two-year contract. Then, as now, the fans were divided. Some were angry with Kassam for not securing Atkins service, some were angry with Atkins for talking to Bristol, some were sympathetic to a man putting his career first, some wanted him to leave anyway because they didn't like his style of football. Amazing eh? Here we go again it seems. Hopefully it doesn't end up the same way - the new manager (Rix) delivered some good football but we lost points, finished 9th and ended up being relegated two years later.[/p][/quote]Ian Atkins did not jump ship to Bristol Rovers. Kassam refused to discuss a new contract with him even though he only had a few months remaining, largely because his focus was on doing things on the cheap. Atkins agreed a contract with Bristol Rovers for the following season, Kassam spat his dummy, sacked him for disloyalty, brought in the woeful Rix (6 wins from 29) and the rest is history. Atkins got us from a finish of 21st in 01/02 to the automatic promotion and playoff places for most of the next season. After his dismissal we lost form and ended the season outside the playoffs. A decade (and 4 Conference seasons) later and we MIGHT finally escape the basement division from the right end this season. Ian Atkins favoured route one and it was not the prettiest to watch, but was sacked when we were riding high. Chris Wilder also has many faults BUT now is not the time to lose him. The biggest difference this time round and the reason for some degree of confidence that if he does go we won't end up with Rix and Co and another 10 years is that this time the Chairman is Ian Lenagan and not Firoz Kassam. COYY. hokuspokus

7:26pm Wed 4 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

disco80 wrote:
IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!!
I hope so, he would do a great job. My dog could do better than Wilder.

Let's hope the Pompey board like Wilder.
[quote][p][bold]disco80[/bold] wrote: IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!![/p][/quote]I hope so, he would do a great job. My dog could do better than Wilder. Let's hope the Pompey board like Wilder. BigAlBiker

7:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Exiled in Scotland says...

Why has IL allowed CW to talk to Pompey easy because CW wanted to. Is this the actions of a man who is loyal. Let's take this opportunity to get rid. I travel 390 miles each way for home games. How would you feel.
Why has IL allowed CW to talk to Pompey easy because CW wanted to. Is this the actions of a man who is loyal. Let's take this opportunity to get rid. I travel 390 miles each way for home games. How would you feel. Exiled in Scotland

8:22pm Wed 4 Dec 13

87oufc says...

Exiled in Scotland wrote:
Why has IL allowed CW to talk to Pompey easy because CW wanted to. Is this the actions of a man who is loyal. Let's take this opportunity to get rid. I travel 390 miles each way for home games. How would you feel.
Just what I was thinking. How would the opinions of fans here change if CW left. To blame the small minority who want CW to leave is illogical since the support for him as been overall well received.
I also question his loyalty for Oxford as a result of talking to Portsmouth, regardless if Wilder stays.
[quote][p][bold]Exiled in Scotland[/bold] wrote: Why has IL allowed CW to talk to Pompey easy because CW wanted to. Is this the actions of a man who is loyal. Let's take this opportunity to get rid. I travel 390 miles each way for home games. How would you feel.[/p][/quote]Just what I was thinking. How would the opinions of fans here change if CW left. To blame the small minority who want CW to leave is illogical since the support for him as been overall well received. I also question his loyalty for Oxford as a result of talking to Portsmouth, regardless if Wilder stays. 87oufc

8:25pm Wed 4 Dec 13

OUFC1983 says...

Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below;

Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list)
2nd highest scorers in the league
Best defensive record
Unbeaten Away

Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.
Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below; Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list) 2nd highest scorers in the league Best defensive record Unbeaten Away Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are. OUFC1983

8:57pm Wed 4 Dec 13

adlibber says...

OUFC1983 wrote:
Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below;

Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list)
2nd highest scorers in the league
Best defensive record
Unbeaten Away

Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.
if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave.
[quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below; Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list) 2nd highest scorers in the league Best defensive record Unbeaten Away Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.[/p][/quote]if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave. adlibber

6:36am Thu 5 Dec 13

hairydean says...

Does anyone put any comments on here off any use to the club of fans any news or respect for the team and its manager. Bad refereeing . Bad luck in front of goal, mostly due to players desperate not to lose, unbelievable amount off injuries . With a team not able to bond properly yet due to injuries. Look bottom line were top of the league ,unbeaten away. Highest scorers in league with players the wilder out fans say are inadequate, so if that's TRUE the manager is the one got them there ok
Does anyone put any comments on here off any use to the club of fans any news or respect for the team and its manager. Bad refereeing . Bad luck in front of goal, mostly due to players desperate not to lose, unbelievable amount off injuries . With a team not able to bond properly yet due to injuries. Look bottom line were top of the league ,unbeaten away. Highest scorers in league with players the wilder out fans say are inadequate, so if that's TRUE the manager is the one got them there ok hairydean

8:34am Thu 5 Dec 13

OUFC1983 says...

adlibber wrote:
OUFC1983 wrote:
Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below;

Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list)
2nd highest scorers in the league
Best defensive record
Unbeaten Away

Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.
if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave.
Re-read my post Adlibber, I haven't guaranteed top three anywhere. It says 'if he goes we won't finish in the top three'. Which means we have a better chance of staying in the top three and gaining promotion if he stays at the club, rather than a new gaffer coming in. That's just common sense. A few people on here need to start realising that we are not entitled to be in the higher leagues just because of our history. The fact is Wilder took us from conference obscurity to a solid League Two club who can compete. For that I am most certainly grateful to him.
[quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below; Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list) 2nd highest scorers in the league Best defensive record Unbeaten Away Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.[/p][/quote]if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave.[/p][/quote]Re-read my post Adlibber, I haven't guaranteed top three anywhere. It says 'if he goes we won't finish in the top three'. Which means we have a better chance of staying in the top three and gaining promotion if he stays at the club, rather than a new gaffer coming in. That's just common sense. A few people on here need to start realising that we are not entitled to be in the higher leagues just because of our history. The fact is Wilder took us from conference obscurity to a solid League Two club who can compete. For that I am most certainly grateful to him. OUFC1983

8:36am Thu 5 Dec 13

Richard Wickson says...

yabbadabbadoo256 wrote:
Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract..
Thursday morning a Cup Tie at Gateshead this evening. Has CW gone north with the team or south to Portsmouth.? Whilst not being his biggest fan nor his biggest doubter I believe at the moment we have a reasonable level of consistency and whether he goes or stays hopefully come the end of the season we will get Promotion. Should he go to Portsmouth, do they have more potential than OU? I do know they are in debt to 25 players to the tune of almost £27 MILLION and in that they are paying our Dave Kitson £608,333 over 40 months. So do they have more potential than us? They are still making huge payments to previous owners. I know we don't own our ground and until we do will never really go forward but, and it's a BIG BUT we are not as heavily in debt as they are. So who does have the most potential? Should he stay or go?
[quote][p][bold]yabbadabbadoo256[/bold] wrote: Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract..[/p][/quote]Thursday morning a Cup Tie at Gateshead this evening. Has CW gone north with the team or south to Portsmouth.? Whilst not being his biggest fan nor his biggest doubter I believe at the moment we have a reasonable level of consistency and whether he goes or stays hopefully come the end of the season we will get Promotion. Should he go to Portsmouth, do they have more potential than OU? I do know they are in debt to 25 players to the tune of almost £27 MILLION and in that they are paying our Dave Kitson £608,333 over 40 months. So do they have more potential than us? They are still making huge payments to previous owners. I know we don't own our ground and until we do will never really go forward but, and it's a BIG BUT we are not as heavily in debt as they are. So who does have the most potential? Should he stay or go? Richard Wickson

8:58am Thu 5 Dec 13

Richard Wickson says...

Richard Wickson wrote:
yabbadabbadoo256 wrote:
Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract..
Thursday morning a Cup Tie at Gateshead this evening. Has CW gone north with the team or south to Portsmouth.? Whilst not being his biggest fan nor his biggest doubter I believe at the moment we have a reasonable level of consistency and whether he goes or stays hopefully come the end of the season we will get Promotion. Should he go to Portsmouth, do they have more potential than OU? I do know they are in debt to 25 players to the tune of almost £27 MILLION and in that they are paying our Dave Kitson £608,333 over 40 months. So do they have more potential than us? They are still making huge payments to previous owners. I know we don't own our ground and until we do will never really go forward but, and it's a BIG BUT we are not as heavily in debt as they are. So who does have the most potential? Should he stay or go?
CORRECTION. they owe more than £6, MILLION to 25 players, the figure from Portsmouth website is £6,261,674, it clearly stated £27 Million and presumably that figure includes the monies owed to former owners. Apologies for error although I took it from their site but when I added up all monies owed to players I spotted the error.
[quote][p][bold]Richard Wickson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yabbadabbadoo256[/bold] wrote: Has he gone yet? Pompey have a lot more potential than OXford have, plus he will be guaranteed a contract..[/p][/quote]Thursday morning a Cup Tie at Gateshead this evening. Has CW gone north with the team or south to Portsmouth.? Whilst not being his biggest fan nor his biggest doubter I believe at the moment we have a reasonable level of consistency and whether he goes or stays hopefully come the end of the season we will get Promotion. Should he go to Portsmouth, do they have more potential than OU? I do know they are in debt to 25 players to the tune of almost £27 MILLION and in that they are paying our Dave Kitson £608,333 over 40 months. So do they have more potential than us? They are still making huge payments to previous owners. I know we don't own our ground and until we do will never really go forward but, and it's a BIG BUT we are not as heavily in debt as they are. So who does have the most potential? Should he stay or go?[/p][/quote]CORRECTION. they owe more than £6, MILLION to 25 players, the figure from Portsmouth website is £6,261,674, it clearly stated £27 Million and presumably that figure includes the monies owed to former owners. Apologies for error although I took it from their site but when I added up all monies owed to players I spotted the error. Richard Wickson

12:05pm Thu 5 Dec 13

BigCrompy says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
disco80 wrote:
IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!!
I hope so, he would do a great job. My dog could do better than Wilder.

Let's hope the Pompey board like Wilder.
I'm glad your dog would have us better than top.

Although you'll have to explain quite how that's possible.
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]disco80[/bold] wrote: IAN HOLLOWAY SPOTTED AT TRAINING GROUND!!!![/p][/quote]I hope so, he would do a great job. My dog could do better than Wilder. Let's hope the Pompey board like Wilder.[/p][/quote]I'm glad your dog would have us better than top. Although you'll have to explain quite how that's possible. BigCrompy

6:25pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Happy09 says...

Who is IAN HOLLOWAY?
Who is IAN HOLLOWAY? Happy09

8:16pm Thu 5 Dec 13

adlibber says...

OUFC1983 wrote:
adlibber wrote:
OUFC1983 wrote:
Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below;

Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list)
2nd highest scorers in the league
Best defensive record
Unbeaten Away

Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.
if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave.
Re-read my post Adlibber, I haven't guaranteed top three anywhere. It says 'if he goes we won't finish in the top three'. Which means we have a better chance of staying in the top three and gaining promotion if he stays at the club, rather than a new gaffer coming in. That's just common sense. A few people on here need to start realising that we are not entitled to be in the higher leagues just because of our history. The fact is Wilder took us from conference obscurity to a solid League Two club who can compete. For that I am most certainly grateful to him.
I based my point on your logic - if wilder goes club won't finish in top three therefore if Wilder stays we will finish in top three? Can't see any misinterpretation there at all. My argument is that Wilder has done an ok job but he has blown two fairly certain play off spots in the last two years both ruined by long runs without a win. If Wilder scoots to Pompey in next few days I think a new man could continue and hopefully cement the [position we are in and we are at the top by virtue of the slip ups of teams around us.
[quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: Really don't get all those saying Wilder out, see list below; Top of the league (Despite a massive injury list) 2nd highest scorers in the league Best defensive record Unbeaten Away Despite previous misgivings about Wilder he has to stay. If he goes we will not be finishing in the top three, because whoever comes in will take time to settle. That doesn't matter who they are.[/p][/quote]if he goes we won't finish in top three? You mean you're guaranteeing automatic promotion with half a season to go? Wow! Take a look at the way Wilder took the team OUT of play off spot for the last two years. Wilder is happy to talk to Pompey therefore I am happy for Wilder to leave.[/p][/quote]Re-read my post Adlibber, I haven't guaranteed top three anywhere. It says 'if he goes we won't finish in the top three'. Which means we have a better chance of staying in the top three and gaining promotion if he stays at the club, rather than a new gaffer coming in. That's just common sense. A few people on here need to start realising that we are not entitled to be in the higher leagues just because of our history. The fact is Wilder took us from conference obscurity to a solid League Two club who can compete. For that I am most certainly grateful to him.[/p][/quote]I based my point on your logic - if wilder goes club won't finish in top three therefore if Wilder stays we will finish in top three? Can't see any misinterpretation there at all. My argument is that Wilder has done an ok job but he has blown two fairly certain play off spots in the last two years both ruined by long runs without a win. If Wilder scoots to Pompey in next few days I think a new man could continue and hopefully cement the [position we are in and we are at the top by virtue of the slip ups of teams around us. adlibber

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