Oxford Utd 1 (Williams 67) Accrington Stanley 2 (Odejayi 18, Gray 52)

The Oxford Times: Oxford Utd 1 (Williams 67) Accrington Stanley 2 (Odejayi 18, Gray 52) Oxford Utd 1 (Williams 67) Accrington Stanley 2 (Odejayi 18, Gray 52)

OXFORD United's slim hopes of reaching the play-offs finally fizzled out as they crashed to defeat at home to Accrington Stanley.

Needing a victory to stand any chance of taking the battle to the final game next weekend, a disjointed performance meant they never looked like signing off at the Kassam Stadium on a high.

They could point to a harsh opening goal in the first half from Kayode Odejayi, when the referee missed a clear trip on Michael Raynes in the build-up.

But weak defending led to James Gray extending the lead early in the second half, which prompted an angry reaction from supporters.

Ryan Williams did pull a goal back, but it did not spark a comeback in the final 20 minutes as United slid to a tenth defeat in 14 games.

While the favours they needed from elsewhere did not appear, the players did not know that and their timid display was hugely disappointing.

The teamsheet showed two changes from Monday's 1-0 defeat at Scunthorpe United.

James Constable came in for the injured David Connolly up front, while Ryan Williams was preferred to Callum O'Dowda.

Before kick-off Ryan Clarke received the player of the season awards as voted for by supporters and his fellow squad members.

The goalkeeper quickly showed why, getting down well inside three minutes to turn Tom Aldred's low shot round the post.

He was also stretched by a Will Hatfield header as Stanley made a decent start.

United took a quarter of an hour to muster an effort. Tom Newey intercepted a pass just inside his own half and picked out Constable, who fired wide off balance.

Accrington responded by opening the scoring on the break, in the 18th minute.

While there have been plenty of contributory factors to United's desperately poor run, they have been on the receiving end of some poor decisions.

Here they were stung by another, as Gray clipped a backtracking Raynes.

It was such a clear foul that United's players stopped, but Gray continued as referee Keith Hill waved play on.

Clarke did well to block the forward's shot, but the ball fell to Odejayi, who plundered a cheap goal.

The home fans were stunned as the players' protests fell on deaf ears.

Accrington were quick to put men behind the ball, but did break with a purpose and Hatfield came close to doubling the lead midway through the half after a weak clearance, while Josh Windass, son of former U's striker Dean, stung Clarke's palms with a fierce long range strike.

United were not short of attacking players, but yet again they struggled to carve out chances.

Their best moment before the break came via an error on 26 minutes, when Marcus Bettinelli dropped a cross from Josh Ruffels.

The ball looked like it hit the post before the goalkeeper scrambled to collect just before Alfie Potter arrived.

He was not troubled again before the break, or in the spell after the restart.

United were sloppy in possession and within seven minutes fell further behind.

Gray could not believe his luck as some weak challenges allowed him through and he buried a finish to make it 2-0.

The fans behind the goal made it clear they were embarrassed and resorted to making their own entertainment, throwing a toy fish around between themselves.

United were listless, but midway through the half stirred themselves to get a foothold in the game.

With 67 minutes gone they finally had a shot on target, as Williams found the corner of the net with a low left-footed effort.

Accrington came within a whisker of immediately restoring their two-goal cushion.

Clarke began to come out for a through ball but quickly changed his mind as Gray ran onto it, but his chip drifted over.

United huffed and puffed in the closing stages, but Bettinelli had little to do.

Come the final whistle it was Accrington celebrating staying up, as the U's players were left wondering if it was their final appearance at the Kassam Stadium in a yellow shirt.

Oxford Utd: Clarke, Hunt (Rose 76), Raynes, Wright, Newey, Williams, Wroe (Davies 63), Ruffels, Potter (O'Dowda 55), Kitson, Constable.

Unused subs: Crocombe, Rigg, Whing, Bevans.

Accrington: Bettinelli, Hunt, Winnard, Aldred, Buxton, Hatfield, Joyce, Windass (Murphy 79), Mingoia, Gray (McCartan 85), Odejayi.

Unused subs: Dawber, Liddle, Naismith, Webber, Atkinson.

Referee: Keith Hill (Hertfordshire).

Attendance: 5,022 (117 visitors).

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5:02pm Sat 26 Apr 14

WindsorYellow says...

Utter utter rubbish!! You can just sense it's a relegation fight next year!
Get your hand in your pocket Leneghan and strengthen the club. Where it needs to be. Better players and not mickey **** mouse department's !! Where you see no benefit from
Utter utter rubbish!! You can just sense it's a relegation fight next year! Get your hand in your pocket Leneghan and strengthen the club. Where it needs to be. Better players and not mickey **** mouse department's !! Where you see no benefit from WindsorYellow
  • Score: 18

5:06pm Sat 26 Apr 14

william12 says...

season ticket went in bin a few games ago wont be buying another to watch this crap dished up each week for the last three seasons.
season ticket went in bin a few games ago wont be buying another to watch this crap dished up each week for the last three seasons. william12
  • Score: 25

5:14pm Sat 26 Apr 14

dave from witney says...

Rest assured , after sifting through seventy one applicants, we have appointed '' THE BEST MAN'''. I know that half the team is not even division two standard, but how come Wilder managed to get points out of them. I'm afraid Lenagan is either going to have to walk away or finance the club debt even more after this showing.. Many season ticket holders will just not renew.
Rest assured , after sifting through seventy one applicants, we have appointed '' THE BEST MAN'''. I know that half the team is not even division two standard, but how come Wilder managed to get points out of them. I'm afraid Lenagan is either going to have to walk away or finance the club debt even more after this showing.. Many season ticket holders will just not renew. dave from witney
  • Score: 22

5:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Yellowlines says...

Thanks but bye bye Beano. We need a decent pair of strikers for next season plus a few triers in midfield. A very average team that manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on a regular basis.
Thanks but bye bye Beano. We need a decent pair of strikers for next season plus a few triers in midfield. A very average team that manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on a regular basis. Yellowlines
  • Score: 10

5:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

learned says...

Didn't ' go today and pleased I didn't !
As someone said the other day, other players work hard for new managers but not this lot !!
Saying that, I am beginning to wonder if Waddock was a good appointment.
He must get his own players in next season and get rid of virtually all of Wilder's players who are not league 2 standard- Hunt Newey Rose etc.
And I really do fear that Wilder's old players will roll over next week and hand Northampton an easy win.
Didn't ' go today and pleased I didn't ! As someone said the other day, other players work hard for new managers but not this lot !! Saying that, I am beginning to wonder if Waddock was a good appointment. He must get his own players in next season and get rid of virtually all of Wilder's players who are not league 2 standard- Hunt Newey Rose etc. And I really do fear that Wilder's old players will roll over next week and hand Northampton an easy win. learned
  • Score: 12

5:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Southstandupper says...

Said weeks ago we need two 20 goal a season strikers. IL need to tell us what the situation with the stadium purchase is after all it is months if not years since he stated the money was in place to buy the Kassam. After todays dire trash served up the whole team needs to go Clarke excepted, not one player showed any desire to play for OUFC we were not even Junior League material. Sorry if that is hard but it is the way I feel. Waddock although not my choice now has to prove his worth. He needs to stand up and be counted, break up this useless squad and build a team ready for August who will spill blood sweat and tears for OUFC, who have a winning mentality and can perform week in and week out. Forget offering new contracts to any of the shower who have performed so poorly over the past 15 or so games and bring in 8-10 winners. NOW is the time we need to judge Waddock and his transfer dealings hopefully will be sooner rather than later.
Said weeks ago we need two 20 goal a season strikers. IL need to tell us what the situation with the stadium purchase is after all it is months if not years since he stated the money was in place to buy the Kassam. After todays dire trash served up the whole team needs to go Clarke excepted, not one player showed any desire to play for OUFC we were not even Junior League material. Sorry if that is hard but it is the way I feel. Waddock although not my choice now has to prove his worth. He needs to stand up and be counted, break up this useless squad and build a team ready for August who will spill blood sweat and tears for OUFC, who have a winning mentality and can perform week in and week out. Forget offering new contracts to any of the shower who have performed so poorly over the past 15 or so games and bring in 8-10 winners. NOW is the time we need to judge Waddock and his transfer dealings hopefully will be sooner rather than later. Southstandupper
  • Score: 12

5:49pm Sat 26 Apr 14

South Upper 87 says...

There must be a couple of Polish builders looking for a job, plus one or two illegal immigrant carwashers from Sainsbury's car park in Witney that could out perform this lot.
There must be a couple of Polish builders looking for a job, plus one or two illegal immigrant carwashers from Sainsbury's car park in Witney that could out perform this lot. South Upper 87
  • Score: -3

5:53pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Beau champ mummy says...

I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late
I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late Beau champ mummy
  • Score: -11

5:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

dovepe says...

Only plus today when Davies came on and played right back.looked good going forward.The players have lost all confidence.Players out as soon as.New ones in as soon as so GW has time to prepare for next season.Over to you IL.
Only plus today when Davies came on and played right back.looked good going forward.The players have lost all confidence.Players out as soon as.New ones in as soon as so GW has time to prepare for next season.Over to you IL. dovepe
  • Score: 7

6:06pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Westcoastyellow says...

Just goes to show what a good job Wilder did with this awful lot of players. 3rd in the league and unbeaten away. Wouldn't have thought that after the last couple of months. People may not have liked him but to let him leave in the position we were in was pretty shocking. Let's just hope Waddock can get some new players in for next season
Just goes to show what a good job Wilder did with this awful lot of players. 3rd in the league and unbeaten away. Wouldn't have thought that after the last couple of months. People may not have liked him but to let him leave in the position we were in was pretty shocking. Let's just hope Waddock can get some new players in for next season Westcoastyellow
  • Score: 25

6:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

South Upper 87 says...

Beau champ mummy wrote:
I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late
Only a scud would spell Clarke without the 'e' clear off.
[quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late[/p][/quote]Only a scud would spell Clarke without the 'e' clear off. South Upper 87
  • Score: 14

6:28pm Sat 26 Apr 14

onthebench says...

Actually I think this was quite positive today. Had we won and played well, the Manager might have considered giving some of these players another chance next season. After today's display I should think he will be looking to get rid of as many as he can. Ryan Clarke is the best keeper in the lower divisions so I am very glad he has another couple of years on his contract. Today, Ryan Williams was very good, but sadly he is going back to Fulham. Kitson showed his class in spells, but again sadly, he is thinking of retiring. Mullins is pure class and has been very much missed. Other than that, I am struggling to think of anyone I desperately want to stay. I am absolutely convinced that Waddock is the right Manager (I spoke to someone "in the game" who said he is the very best coach he has ever come across!). Next season we will be playing good football as long as he can bring in the players he wants whilst getting rid of the ones he doesn't. Unfortunately money talks and what we really want is the same as most other clubs - someone who can score goals, but they cost money. We nearly got Matt Tubbs before, maybe we can get him in this close season. We also need a midfield because that is where we have consistently been over-run in the last half of the season. If you don't control the midfield, you very rarely win games.
Actually I think this was quite positive today. Had we won and played well, the Manager might have considered giving some of these players another chance next season. After today's display I should think he will be looking to get rid of as many as he can. Ryan Clarke is the best keeper in the lower divisions so I am very glad he has another couple of years on his contract. Today, Ryan Williams was very good, but sadly he is going back to Fulham. Kitson showed his class in spells, but again sadly, he is thinking of retiring. Mullins is pure class and has been very much missed. Other than that, I am struggling to think of anyone I desperately want to stay. I am absolutely convinced that Waddock is the right Manager (I spoke to someone "in the game" who said he is the very best coach he has ever come across!). Next season we will be playing good football as long as he can bring in the players he wants whilst getting rid of the ones he doesn't. Unfortunately money talks and what we really want is the same as most other clubs - someone who can score goals, but they cost money. We nearly got Matt Tubbs before, maybe we can get him in this close season. We also need a midfield because that is where we have consistently been over-run in the last half of the season. If you don't control the midfield, you very rarely win games. onthebench
  • Score: 8

6:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

35 year fan says...

we have to get these players out or they will take us down next year. has there ever been a more pathetic final third of the season by any club?

to salvage something from the season Northampton must be backed to beat us next week and probably by three or four. these losers will just roll right over.
we have to get these players out or they will take us down next year. has there ever been a more pathetic final third of the season by any club? to salvage something from the season Northampton must be backed to beat us next week and probably by three or four. these losers will just roll right over. 35 year fan
  • Score: 16

6:39pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Richard Wickson says...

A very sad end to a season that for so long under Wilder offered so much. Lewis and Melville must now go as the only way to fairly judge Waddock is with back room staff of his own choosing. .I personally think he should also go as he is obviously not up to the job on current form but Lenagan has already given him a contract so we are lumbered with him. I just hope that he can get in players who will wear the shirt with pride and give us some entertaining football, in my opinion he needs about 17 new faces, they don't have to be names, just willing to try and be able to take on board tactics and give it a go. Or am I hoping for too much? Farewell from me for this season! Have an enjoyable summer.
A very sad end to a season that for so long under Wilder offered so much. Lewis and Melville must now go as the only way to fairly judge Waddock is with back room staff of his own choosing. .I personally think he should also go as he is obviously not up to the job on current form but Lenagan has already given him a contract so we are lumbered with him. I just hope that he can get in players who will wear the shirt with pride and give us some entertaining football, in my opinion he needs about 17 new faces, they don't have to be names, just willing to try and be able to take on board tactics and give it a go. Or am I hoping for too much? Farewell from me for this season! Have an enjoyable summer. Richard Wickson
  • Score: 8

6:44pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Fruit_Bat says...

If Tescos served up rotten goods each week I'd stop going there too.
It's hard enough listening on the radio and they always talk the game up.
Paying upfront for 23 mostly insipid performances Mr IL, I don't think so.

@Beau champ mummy - At least when we play you scummers we raise our game, whilst you just don't show up at all. Oxford Utd's record against STFC is Unbeaten this Century. Go suck on that. Always in our shadow ;)
If Tescos served up rotten goods each week I'd stop going there too. It's hard enough listening on the radio and they always talk the game up. Paying upfront for 23 mostly insipid performances Mr IL, I don't think so. @Beau champ mummy - At least when we play you scummers we raise our game, whilst you just don't show up at all. Oxford Utd's record against STFC is Unbeaten this Century. Go suck on that. Always in our shadow ;) Fruit_Bat
  • Score: 16

7:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

skye53 says...

That's me done with that pile off **** I'm not buying season ticket again cost of petrol basically to watch a village team no that's wrong a village team puts 100% into the game
That's me done with that pile off **** I'm not buying season ticket again cost of petrol basically to watch a village team no that's wrong a village team puts 100% into the game skye53
  • Score: 25

7:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

BigAlBiker says...

Utter rubbish from start to finish, ok the pitch is crap but some of our "players" could not pass a ball, and some of them wondered what this round thing was, nobody but nobody could take control of the ball, it's like it was a foreign object.

I told you weeks ago Waddock was not the man, nothing has changed, he has shown no enthusiasm or skills in any way to jump start this lot.

The majority of this lot need to be dumped quicker than a rubbish bin, Waddock, Lewis, Melville and the back room staff need there P45's this week. Lenegan needs to realise he has dropped a bollock and get a man in who knows this division, the pitch is as bad as the performance so football after Christmas is out, we need to adapt.

Yes I have already purchased my season ticket for next year, I always have hope, but I am my mates around me will give them one more season to entertain me, that's all I ask, entertainment, I don't even mind if we stay in L2 as long as I can go home happy and not depressed with lack of ambition.
Utter rubbish from start to finish, ok the pitch is crap but some of our "players" could not pass a ball, and some of them wondered what this round thing was, nobody but nobody could take control of the ball, it's like it was a foreign object. I told you weeks ago Waddock was not the man, nothing has changed, he has shown no enthusiasm or skills in any way to jump start this lot. The majority of this lot need to be dumped quicker than a rubbish bin, Waddock, Lewis, Melville and the back room staff need there P45's this week. Lenegan needs to realise he has dropped a bollock and get a man in who knows this division, the pitch is as bad as the performance so football after Christmas is out, we need to adapt. Yes I have already purchased my season ticket for next year, I always have hope, but I am my mates around me will give them one more season to entertain me, that's all I ask, entertainment, I don't even mind if we stay in L2 as long as I can go home happy and not depressed with lack of ambition. BigAlBiker
  • Score: 13

7:59pm Sat 26 Apr 14

BigAlBiker says...

Oh and Tom Newey player of the match?????? Someone was on drugs.
Oh and Tom Newey player of the match?????? Someone was on drugs. BigAlBiker
  • Score: 15

8:07pm Sat 26 Apr 14

dorsetyellows says...

The end of the season has been very damaging to the club on and off the pitch . Hope the chairman and new manager get to this club back on track ASAP. As a life long fan , I can accept years of winning nothing , but it's the
way the current squad have simply just become losers in the last 3 months I
Find hard to understand , hope we can bring in some real quality players which can change the fortunes of our club , the good size fan base is slowly falling away , mostly for the right reasons of poor entertainment and lack of quality with passion and desire which we have seen very little of recently .
The end of the season has been very damaging to the club on and off the pitch . Hope the chairman and new manager get to this club back on track ASAP. As a life long fan , I can accept years of winning nothing , but it's the way the current squad have simply just become losers in the last 3 months I Find hard to understand , hope we can bring in some real quality players which can change the fortunes of our club , the good size fan base is slowly falling away , mostly for the right reasons of poor entertainment and lack of quality with passion and desire which we have seen very little of recently . dorsetyellows
  • Score: 12

8:13pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Manor Born says...

Is it any wonder we've failed so spectacularly when the back of the right side start chanting "this is embarrassing" and then go boo every misplaced or hurried pass? Yes, today was poor, but when the crowd turn on the players as soon as one thing goes wrong is it any surprise?

What was embarrassing was a section of the crowd (and you know who you are at the back of the right side) just giving up and not getting behind the team. Hardly supporting and hardly encouraging a struggling team. Get behind the players on the pitch (who as hard is it may seem) are giving their all. There is one constant throughout the last few years, it's not the players, it's not the manager, it's not even the chairman, it's the so-called fans who as soon as the going gets tough, turn their back & abuse the players.

I've renewed my season ticket because when I sing Oxford till I die, I mean it. It's my football club, it's my team and I am proud to be a supporter of this club.
Is it any wonder we've failed so spectacularly when the back of the right side start chanting "this is embarrassing" and then go boo every misplaced or hurried pass? Yes, today was poor, but when the crowd turn on the players as soon as one thing goes wrong is it any surprise? What was embarrassing was a section of the crowd (and you know who you are at the back of the right side) just giving up and not getting behind the team. Hardly supporting and hardly encouraging a struggling team. Get behind the players on the pitch (who as hard is it may seem) are giving their all. There is one constant throughout the last few years, it's not the players, it's not the manager, it's not even the chairman, it's the so-called fans who as soon as the going gets tough, turn their back & abuse the players. I've renewed my season ticket because when I sing Oxford till I die, I mean it. It's my football club, it's my team and I am proud to be a supporter of this club. Manor Born
  • Score: -13

9:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

dorsetyellows says...

Manor Born wrote:
Is it any wonder we've failed so spectacularly when the back of the right side start chanting "this is embarrassing" and then go boo every misplaced or hurried pass? Yes, today was poor, but when the crowd turn on the players as soon as one thing goes wrong is it any surprise?

What was embarrassing was a section of the crowd (and you know who you are at the back of the right side) just giving up and not getting behind the team. Hardly supporting and hardly encouraging a struggling team. Get behind the players on the pitch (who as hard is it may seem) are giving their all. There is one constant throughout the last few years, it's not the players, it's not the manager, it's not even the chairman, it's the so-called fans who as soon as the going gets tough, turn their back & abuse the players.

I've renewed my season ticket because when I sing Oxford till I die, I mean it. It's my football club, it's my team and I am proud to be a supporter of this club.
Sorry pal , but me and my son have travelled to lots of games home and away for us living 100 miles away from oxford . We have sang loud and proud
With many of the good fans but this team have failed big time of late , without
even a glimmer of fight , spirit and quality . And some supporters only know
how to show their feelings in this way , rightly or wrongly . Serious questions need to be asked about what the hell this club does with so many of the players that come to our club from other clubs showing good promise and fail
miserably . The players should be big and strong enough to deal with fans getting on their backs and if they are really worth their salt , react in the right way .
[quote][p][bold]Manor Born[/bold] wrote: Is it any wonder we've failed so spectacularly when the back of the right side start chanting "this is embarrassing" and then go boo every misplaced or hurried pass? Yes, today was poor, but when the crowd turn on the players as soon as one thing goes wrong is it any surprise? What was embarrassing was a section of the crowd (and you know who you are at the back of the right side) just giving up and not getting behind the team. Hardly supporting and hardly encouraging a struggling team. Get behind the players on the pitch (who as hard is it may seem) are giving their all. There is one constant throughout the last few years, it's not the players, it's not the manager, it's not even the chairman, it's the so-called fans who as soon as the going gets tough, turn their back & abuse the players. I've renewed my season ticket because when I sing Oxford till I die, I mean it. It's my football club, it's my team and I am proud to be a supporter of this club.[/p][/quote]Sorry pal , but me and my son have travelled to lots of games home and away for us living 100 miles away from oxford . We have sang loud and proud With many of the good fans but this team have failed big time of late , without even a glimmer of fight , spirit and quality . And some supporters only know how to show their feelings in this way , rightly or wrongly . Serious questions need to be asked about what the hell this club does with so many of the players that come to our club from other clubs showing good promise and fail miserably . The players should be big and strong enough to deal with fans getting on their backs and if they are really worth their salt , react in the right way . dorsetyellows
  • Score: 20

9:57pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Doctor69 says...

Today was pathetic. Considering at half time York were drawing I fully expected a second half of 100% all out going for it, instead we conceded a second goal! Even when we did finally muster our only effort on target (and scored) we didn't build on it..

I have been trying to decide who I would keep player wise, and I honestly think I would only be gutted to lose Clarke. Mullins and possibly Wright have a future too. Other than that the rest can do one! Have we ever had worse players than the current full backs? It seems there distribution is just kick it, anywhere.

Whoever voted Newey man of the match......can I have some of your drugs please? Another shocking performance from him today.

Relegation scrap next season if more than a couple of the current squad are kept on.

Players out!
Today was pathetic. Considering at half time York were drawing I fully expected a second half of 100% all out going for it, instead we conceded a second goal! Even when we did finally muster our only effort on target (and scored) we didn't build on it.. I have been trying to decide who I would keep player wise, and I honestly think I would only be gutted to lose Clarke. Mullins and possibly Wright have a future too. Other than that the rest can do one! Have we ever had worse players than the current full backs? It seems there distribution is just kick it, anywhere. Whoever voted Newey man of the match......can I have some of your drugs please? Another shocking performance from him today. Relegation scrap next season if more than a couple of the current squad are kept on. Players out! Doctor69
  • Score: 9

11:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

35 year fan says...

I personally feel waddock deserves a chance with his own choice of players before people get after him. remember this bunch had already started to surrender on a very regular basis well before he turned up.
I personally feel waddock deserves a chance with his own choice of players before people get after him. remember this bunch had already started to surrender on a very regular basis well before he turned up. 35 year fan
  • Score: 2

11:48pm Sat 26 Apr 14

marston old boy says...

I agree with many people on many of the Oxford Forums give the youth a chance next week. I think the relegation places are already settled and hate to admit it Wilder has got them playing so it would be nice for us to send mainly youth to turn them over. We go on about development put them in the mixer....
I agree with many people on many of the Oxford Forums give the youth a chance next week. I think the relegation places are already settled and hate to admit it Wilder has got them playing so it would be nice for us to send mainly youth to turn them over. We go on about development put them in the mixer.... marston old boy
  • Score: 4

1:03am Sun 27 Apr 14

brimptonyellow says...

Strange to see so many backing the manager. He has taken a team playing negative football and shorn of confidence and made it even worse, when that didn't seem possible. One shot on target, at home, against relegation fodder? One up front for an hour against York? The division this year was extremely weak and there for the taking, and Wilder, Lewis and Waddock between them have made a dog's breakfast of it. The squad is okay, though it needs strengthening in places, but the negative tactics are driving fans away - look at how crowds have fallen over the last three awful seasons. We must get rid of Lewis and Melville immediately, great players though they were for OUFC, and bring in some coaches with a vague idea of where the opposition goal is. Not impressed at all when Waddock was announced as manager, and haven't seen anything to change my mind. Season can't end soon enough
Strange to see so many backing the manager. He has taken a team playing negative football and shorn of confidence and made it even worse, when that didn't seem possible. One shot on target, at home, against relegation fodder? One up front for an hour against York? The division this year was extremely weak and there for the taking, and Wilder, Lewis and Waddock between them have made a dog's breakfast of it. The squad is okay, though it needs strengthening in places, but the negative tactics are driving fans away - look at how crowds have fallen over the last three awful seasons. We must get rid of Lewis and Melville immediately, great players though they were for OUFC, and bring in some coaches with a vague idea of where the opposition goal is. Not impressed at all when Waddock was announced as manager, and haven't seen anything to change my mind. Season can't end soon enough brimptonyellow
  • Score: 14

2:40am Sun 27 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

Waddock has had a dreadful start as manager and I can't recall many new managers having such an awful record so soon after taking over. The players, most of whom are a disgrace to their profession, are clearly not inspired by Waddock and this is a serious concern for next season. Lenagan is on a tightrope and I have some sympathy for him but he will have to make some big decisions in the summer if he wants a return on his investment. I think his best route would be to sell the club but finding a wealthy buyer will be the problem.

The players who speak to the OM about working hard to put things right have embarrassed themselves with recent performances and really don't deserve to be here. Lewis and Melville have outstayed their welcome, Gates have fallen and I agree with posters on here that we will be fighting relegation next year if we don't strengthen the squad, and get rid of the considerable dross we have.

The pro Wilder fans still baffle me given Wilder's 3 years of stagnation before he left. It's only taken him 14 games to claw back a 6 point deficit and climb out of a relegation spot. Wilder was given resources from the off too. Having said that I think Northampton will thump us next week becasue we have slumped into a hole that we can't climb out of and the players seem disinclined to make an effort any more. Dark days ahead but then when did our club ever do things the simple effective way? I know of at least 5 mates who won't be renewing season tickets and who can blame them? Most fans can accept defeat if the team has at least had a go but this current crock are gutless and don't deserve the fantastic support it usually gets.
Waddock has had a dreadful start as manager and I can't recall many new managers having such an awful record so soon after taking over. The players, most of whom are a disgrace to their profession, are clearly not inspired by Waddock and this is a serious concern for next season. Lenagan is on a tightrope and I have some sympathy for him but he will have to make some big decisions in the summer if he wants a return on his investment. I think his best route would be to sell the club but finding a wealthy buyer will be the problem. The players who speak to the OM about working hard to put things right have embarrassed themselves with recent performances and really don't deserve to be here. Lewis and Melville have outstayed their welcome, Gates have fallen and I agree with posters on here that we will be fighting relegation next year if we don't strengthen the squad, and get rid of the considerable dross we have. The pro Wilder fans still baffle me given Wilder's 3 years of stagnation before he left. It's only taken him 14 games to claw back a 6 point deficit and climb out of a relegation spot. Wilder was given resources from the off too. Having said that I think Northampton will thump us next week becasue we have slumped into a hole that we can't climb out of and the players seem disinclined to make an effort any more. Dark days ahead but then when did our club ever do things the simple effective way? I know of at least 5 mates who won't be renewing season tickets and who can blame them? Most fans can accept defeat if the team has at least had a go but this current crock are gutless and don't deserve the fantastic support it usually gets. Oxokuba
  • Score: 8

2:42am Sun 27 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

Beau champ mummy wrote:
I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late
You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was?

Go back to your pigeon loft.
[quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late[/p][/quote]You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was? Go back to your pigeon loft. Oxokuba
  • Score: 16

9:22am Sun 27 Apr 14

Beau champ mummy says...

Oxokuba wrote:
Beau champ mummy wrote:
I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late
You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was?

Go back to your pigeon loft.
Think it sums up how dense u r mate if u think I'm a swindon supporter went there once to support my team
[quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late[/p][/quote]You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was? Go back to your pigeon loft.[/p][/quote]Think it sums up how dense u r mate if u think I'm a swindon supporter went there once to support my team Beau champ mummy
  • Score: -22

9:29am Sun 27 Apr 14

hairydean says...

I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from.
Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries.
Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up .
Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation.
So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo.
Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table.
Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place.
I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying.
Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go
Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract.
As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary
Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted
Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated.
Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up.
The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always.
In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.
I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from. Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries. Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up . Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation. So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo. Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table. Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place. I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying. Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract. As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated. Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up. The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always. In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud. hairydean
  • Score: 1

11:14am Sun 27 Apr 14

87oufc says...

Having thought about our plummeting performance. I started thinking, much like Manure utd, who finally won - is there some sort of inside discussion to intentionally play bad because of Wilders departure. Has this been some kind of protests because I for one am so disjointed and stunned at how Oxford can be so inept that I never thought so many players can play so bad, week in week out.
Having thought about our plummeting performance. I started thinking, much like Manure utd, who finally won - is there some sort of inside discussion to intentionally play bad because of Wilders departure. Has this been some kind of protests because I for one am so disjointed and stunned at how Oxford can be so inept that I never thought so many players can play so bad, week in week out. 87oufc
  • Score: 1

11:28am Sun 27 Apr 14

bigchet says...

like most fans i find it very hard to understand the apalling form of the last three months. maybe the negative feedback from the fans about waddocks appointment has spread to the playing staff but surely they are playing for their futures and you would expect them to try and raise their game. im not sure if he is the right man to take us forward but we have to give him the chance now as he will have the close season to reshape the squad.
like most fans i find it very hard to understand the apalling form of the last three months. maybe the negative feedback from the fans about waddocks appointment has spread to the playing staff but surely they are playing for their futures and you would expect them to try and raise their game. im not sure if he is the right man to take us forward but we have to give him the chance now as he will have the close season to reshape the squad. bigchet
  • Score: 1

11:43am Sun 27 Apr 14

Trnc38 says...

TRNC 38
Wilder had the players trying for him but since he left Oxford you could think they we're still playing for him and not Oxford it will be interesting how meany will be in a Northampton shirt next season.
TRNC 38 Wilder had the players trying for him but since he left Oxford you could think they we're still playing for him and not Oxford it will be interesting how meany will be in a Northampton shirt next season. Trnc38
  • Score: 4

1:45pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

hairydean wrote:
I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from.
Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries.
Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up .
Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation.
So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo.
Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table.
Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place.
I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying.
Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go
Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract.
As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary
Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted
Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated.
Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up.
The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always.
In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.
and once again a Wilder fan suffers memory loss of the previous two seasons where Wilder guided the team out of a play off spot into mid table mediocrity. Conjecture isn't reality Wilder left because he wanted a contract irrespective of whether we got promotion or spent another year in the bottom tier. Wilder had 5 years and for 3 of them we stagnated. Agree with your view regards Lenagan he needs to make a decision on where he wants the club to go.
[quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from. Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries. Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up . Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation. So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo. Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table. Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place. I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying. Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract. As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated. Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up. The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always. In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.[/p][/quote]and once again a Wilder fan suffers memory loss of the previous two seasons where Wilder guided the team out of a play off spot into mid table mediocrity. Conjecture isn't reality Wilder left because he wanted a contract irrespective of whether we got promotion or spent another year in the bottom tier. Wilder had 5 years and for 3 of them we stagnated. Agree with your view regards Lenagan he needs to make a decision on where he wants the club to go. Oxokuba
  • Score: 6

2:31pm Sun 27 Apr 14

learned says...

Doctor69 wrote:
Today was pathetic. Considering at half time York were drawing I fully expected a second half of 100% all out going for it, instead we conceded a second goal! Even when we did finally muster our only effort on target (and scored) we didn't build on it..

I have been trying to decide who I would keep player wise, and I honestly think I would only be gutted to lose Clarke. Mullins and possibly Wright have a future too. Other than that the rest can do one! Have we ever had worse players than the current full backs? It seems there distribution is just kick it, anywhere.

Whoever voted Newey man of the match......can I have some of your drugs please? Another shocking performance from him today.

Relegation scrap next season if more than a couple of the current squad are kept on.

Players out!
Agree with this.
I have been a Utd supporter for many years and can't remember as awful full backs as Hunt and Newey. More shocking signings by Wilder
To think that he got rid of Batt and Liam Davis who has been playing regularly for Yeovil in the championship for those 2.

And I also agree that the likes of Potter and Smalley will be in Wilders shirts next season
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Today was pathetic. Considering at half time York were drawing I fully expected a second half of 100% all out going for it, instead we conceded a second goal! Even when we did finally muster our only effort on target (and scored) we didn't build on it.. I have been trying to decide who I would keep player wise, and I honestly think I would only be gutted to lose Clarke. Mullins and possibly Wright have a future too. Other than that the rest can do one! Have we ever had worse players than the current full backs? It seems there distribution is just kick it, anywhere. Whoever voted Newey man of the match......can I have some of your drugs please? Another shocking performance from him today. Relegation scrap next season if more than a couple of the current squad are kept on. Players out![/p][/quote]Agree with this. I have been a Utd supporter for many years and can't remember as awful full backs as Hunt and Newey. More shocking signings by Wilder To think that he got rid of Batt and Liam Davis who has been playing regularly for Yeovil in the championship for those 2. And I also agree that the likes of Potter and Smalley will be in Wilders shirts next season learned
  • Score: 6

3:02pm Sun 27 Apr 14

hairydean says...

Oxocuba logical words and off like to piont out im an oxford fan and not any manager fan or person fan my points were this Chris wilder is a manager that got us more points than waddock or Lewis, and has done for bottom club Northampton got more points than them both put together for a bottom of league table there for has more ability to produce results more than waddock or Lewis. But and there's a but wilder off field stuff ie coaching staff employment should be have been addressed before due to injuries, mistakes there were his fault. Injuries may or may not off cost us promotion last two seasons the players got us close the last two years. Not wilders management skills. They in my opinion were miss managed strikers should be used as strikers defenders defenders. Midfield both. So wilder fan im not oxford I am I feel the chairman has to be to blame for all this he should be more brave and forget compensations you make more money on gates they have gone Down because wilder and the chairman for defo. Wilder may or may not get Northampton promoted next season if he does it will be down to the chairman wewhetherher he backs him or not and if he does then fair play. For us we need a chairman that funds great assets and not freebies and gets rid off managers that make mistakes to often. And results go down hill supporters will turn up if both manager and chairman perform commitment from chairman manager players and fans. oxford fan not manager or chairman wilder has got enough points this season to get us or Northampton promoted based on ratio points per game. TRUE or failed previous years no he didnt
Oxocuba logical words and off like to piont out im an oxford fan and not any manager fan or person fan my points were this Chris wilder is a manager that got us more points than waddock or Lewis, and has done for bottom club Northampton got more points than them both put together for a bottom of league table there for has more ability to produce results more than waddock or Lewis. But and there's a but wilder off field stuff ie coaching staff employment should be have been addressed before due to injuries, mistakes there were his fault. Injuries may or may not off cost us promotion last two seasons the players got us close the last two years. Not wilders management skills. They in my opinion were miss managed strikers should be used as strikers defenders defenders. Midfield both. So wilder fan im not oxford I am I feel the chairman has to be to blame for all this he should be more brave and forget compensations you make more money on gates they have gone Down because wilder and the chairman for defo. Wilder may or may not get Northampton promoted next season if he does it will be down to the chairman wewhetherher he backs him or not and if he does then fair play. For us we need a chairman that funds great assets and not freebies and gets rid off managers that make mistakes to often. And results go down hill supporters will turn up if both manager and chairman perform commitment from chairman manager players and fans. oxford fan not manager or chairman wilder has got enough points this season to get us or Northampton promoted based on ratio points per game. TRUE or failed previous years no he didnt hairydean
  • Score: -2

4:43pm Sun 27 Apr 14

greengarden says...

The problem here is not exclusive to arguments around ex-Wilder, Waddock, coaching staff, inept players.. bla bla bla

I'm afraid that until we get ownership of this club by someone who really wants to succeed we will go nowhere. I know Mr Leneghan and his family are doing the best job possible and we all thank him for that, but he is not the future.

Its a depressing thought but one of reality......
The problem here is not exclusive to arguments around ex-Wilder, Waddock, coaching staff, inept players.. bla bla bla I'm afraid that until we get ownership of this club by someone who really wants to succeed we will go nowhere. I know Mr Leneghan and his family are doing the best job possible and we all thank him for that, but he is not the future. Its a depressing thought but one of reality...... greengarden
  • Score: 5

4:44pm Sun 27 Apr 14

oldun says...

Chris has long enough to show that he could take us up - I believe that had he stayed then we would have reached the lottery of the playoffs . Had we gone up then the squad would have needed enormous strengthening I we were not to immediately return to the 4th tier. Whilst I hated the football that Chris's team played in so may matches, I do hope (and expect) that Cobblers will stay up - United are woeful. Waddock's (the chosen one) many, many necessary new signings had better be much better than the garbage which must go -please!
Chris has long enough to show that he could take us up - I believe that had he stayed then we would have reached the lottery of the playoffs . Had we gone up then the squad would have needed enormous strengthening I we were not to immediately return to the 4th tier. Whilst I hated the football that Chris's team played in so may matches, I do hope (and expect) that Cobblers will stay up - United are woeful. Waddock's (the chosen one) many, many necessary new signings had better be much better than the garbage which must go -please! oldun
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

OxRoxBox says...

Up until Christmas ish we had one of if not the best away record in the League and yet at home - dire! The pitch, the fear and some of the "fans" have not helped but above all the motivation and desire has been missing at home. I am not sure why but have to think it is the Leadership Team - in any other business changes would be made. Lead from the front - there are not many of our lot you would want in the Trenches alongside you when going over the top.
So disappointed to go from hero to zero in 3 and a bit months and pathetic way to thank the loyal fans parting with their hard earned week in and week out.
Please please Come on you Yellows!!
Up until Christmas ish we had one of if not the best away record in the League and yet at home - dire! The pitch, the fear and some of the "fans" have not helped but above all the motivation and desire has been missing at home. I am not sure why but have to think it is the Leadership Team - in any other business changes would be made. Lead from the front - there are not many of our lot you would want in the Trenches alongside you when going over the top. So disappointed to go from hero to zero in 3 and a bit months and pathetic way to thank the loyal fans parting with their hard earned week in and week out. Please please Come on you Yellows!! OxRoxBox
  • Score: 6

5:53pm Sun 27 Apr 14

hairydean says...

OxRoxBox sense at last exactly what I said as for the team they ain't good enough to play league one fact sometimes managers can get players to playing better and make them better players week in week out wilder couldnt neither could many other managers we've had .
OxRoxBox sense at last exactly what I said as for the team they ain't good enough to play league one fact sometimes managers can get players to playing better and make them better players week in week out wilder couldnt neither could many other managers we've had . hairydean
  • Score: 4

6:47pm Sun 27 Apr 14

OxRoxBox says...

Hairydean - I have said in the past that we need a Manager that is hard fighter type the type to get the player to play for the badge that we all love so much, the type that will sweat blood and tears and play like blood and thunder. A Martin Allen type or did you see Diego Simeone's Managerial performance for Athletico the other other night on TV?! Clearly a little too good for OUFC but he is the type I want . .. pure unadulterated heart on the sleeve stuff!
Waddock seems too nice but hopefully I am wrong . . .
Hairydean - I have said in the past that we need a Manager that is hard fighter type the type to get the player to play for the badge that we all love so much, the type that will sweat blood and tears and play like blood and thunder. A Martin Allen type or did you see Diego Simeone's Managerial performance for Athletico the other other night on TV?! Clearly a little too good for OUFC but he is the type I want . .. pure unadulterated heart on the sleeve stuff! Waddock seems too nice but hopefully I am wrong . . . OxRoxBox
  • Score: 4

8:15pm Sun 27 Apr 14

westsomersetyellow says...

Am I being cynical or Would I be right in suspecting that good number of our heroes will be turning out for Northampton next season?
Am I being cynical or Would I be right in suspecting that good number of our heroes will be turning out for Northampton next season? westsomersetyellow
  • Score: 4

8:49pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

Beau champ mummy wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
Beau champ mummy wrote:
I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late
You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was?

Go back to your pigeon loft.
Think it sums up how dense u r mate if u think I'm a swindon supporter went there once to support my team
I'm willing to bet you're a swindon troll - your posts are vacuous and often put up seconds after a game no matter if we're home or away. Must be lonely in your bedsit.
[quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beau champ mummy[/bold] wrote: I said a few week ago that whole team except Clark were utter rubbish but was called a swindon troll cause I can see things quicker than others I get abuse I also said that constable is useless which others r now seeing went to match today and that was pure rubbish get lenagan out before it's to late[/p][/quote]You are a Swindon troll not a bright one but a scummer nonetheless - why not discuss your failure to secure a play off spot or the DiCanio revolution that never was? Go back to your pigeon loft.[/p][/quote]Think it sums up how dense u r mate if u think I'm a swindon supporter went there once to support my team[/p][/quote]I'm willing to bet you're a swindon troll - your posts are vacuous and often put up seconds after a game no matter if we're home or away. Must be lonely in your bedsit. Oxokuba
  • Score: 4

9:57pm Sun 27 Apr 14

BenkiuGuasu says...

The buck stops at the chairman.

He let Wilder go.

He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach?

And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man.

Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract.

Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame.
The buck stops at the chairman. He let Wilder go. He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach? And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man. Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract. Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame. BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: 3

10:01pm Sun 27 Apr 14

BenkiuGuasu says...

hairydean wrote:
I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from.
Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries.
Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up .
Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation.
So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo.
Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table.
Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place.
I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying.
Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go
Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract.
As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary
Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted
Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated.
Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up.
The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always.
In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.
Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post.
[quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from. Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries. Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up . Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation. So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo. Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table. Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place. I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying. Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract. As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated. Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up. The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always. In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.[/p][/quote]Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post. BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: 0

11:04pm Sun 27 Apr 14

The Good Ship Hardy says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
hairydean wrote:
I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from.
Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries.
Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up .
Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation.
So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo.
Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table.
Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place.
I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying.
Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go
Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract.
As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary
Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted
Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated.
Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up.
The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always.
In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.
Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post.
Plenty of U's fans wanted Wilder out even when they were going well. Great post I agree but please let us all know where you can find that very rich owner
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from. Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries. Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up . Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation. So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo. Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table. Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place. I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying. Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract. As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated. Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up. The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always. In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.[/p][/quote]Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post.[/p][/quote]Plenty of U's fans wanted Wilder out even when they were going well. Great post I agree but please let us all know where you can find that very rich owner The Good Ship Hardy
  • Score: 0

4:45am Mon 28 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
The buck stops at the chairman.

He let Wilder go.

He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach?

And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man.

Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract.

Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame.
What a plank - Lenagan wouldn't bow to Wilder's arrogance so Wilder left. what part of this don't you get? As for telling other fans to shut up I'd rather hear fans criticising the club with intelligent reason than read the inane garbage you spout. You like wilder therefore you must be right? That's some logic.
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: The buck stops at the chairman. He let Wilder go. He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach? And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man. Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract. Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame.[/p][/quote]What a plank - Lenagan wouldn't bow to Wilder's arrogance so Wilder left. what part of this don't you get? As for telling other fans to shut up I'd rather hear fans criticising the club with intelligent reason than read the inane garbage you spout. You like wilder therefore you must be right? That's some logic. Oxokuba
  • Score: 0

7:59am Mon 28 Apr 14

Manor Born says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
The buck stops at the chairman.

He let Wilder go.

He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach?

And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man.

Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract.

Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame.
Whilst I agree with the first half of what you say the second half is absolute nonsense. Do you really think Lenagan, a hard-nosed businessman listened to the fans when deciding Wilder's fate? Had he done so, Wilder would have been long gone last summer. Wilder has gone to Northampton and done the job required of him. Well done to him and good luck to him. He's moved on, about time you did too.

Wilder wanted out. Plain and simple. He'd become stale and tired here and needed a fresh challenge, just as we needed fresh ideas. The fact it then took two months to bring in those fresh ideas & the lack of investment when all around us had done so is how we find ourselves repeating the same mistakes as the last two under Wilder's stewardship. Is it merely coincidence or is it down to the fact that bland, negative, slow tempo football will only get you so far, but it won't get you over the finishing line. This has been proven time and time again - look at our own history for the past 3 years.

This is still very much Wilder's team that have been coached and trained to play a certain way from the moment they arrived through the door. Changing that mentality in the short space of time he was given was a nigh on impossible task for Waddock - especially with a squad of average League 2 players. By the time he arrived the club was stagnant, rapidly falling down the table with confidence falling by the game. The wheels had well untruly fallen off and the rot had set in.

Waddock will ring in the changes this summer. He has to. First thing he should do is appoint Kitson as a coach, promote Chrissy Allen to assistant manager. Then get rid of the stupid warm up drill the players are made to do before each half - what is the point in that? It certainly doesn't get the players fired up and ready to play a game of football. Then he needs to bring in some players with the ability to string more than one pass together, add a bit of steel and guile to the midfield and hardest of all bring in a couple of strikers who are exactly that. One thing for sure, it's going to be an interesting summer.
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: The buck stops at the chairman. He let Wilder go. He took forever and a day to appoint a new manager "to give Mickey Lewis a chance". Why? Has Mickey Lewis ever been anything other than a hard-working coach? And now he has seemingly appointed the wrong man. Fans who didn't appreciate Wilder also have to take their share of the blame. If it wasn't for you I think Lenagan may well have given Wilder his contract. Big Al, and Wickson I am talking very specifically about you (and others). You are also to blame. Keep your gobs shut about this and that, and crap and shat... You didn't trust in WIlder. You are also to blame.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with the first half of what you say the second half is absolute nonsense. Do you really think Lenagan, a hard-nosed businessman listened to the fans when deciding Wilder's fate? Had he done so, Wilder would have been long gone last summer. Wilder has gone to Northampton and done the job required of him. Well done to him and good luck to him. He's moved on, about time you did too. Wilder wanted out. Plain and simple. He'd become stale and tired here and needed a fresh challenge, just as we needed fresh ideas. The fact it then took two months to bring in those fresh ideas & the lack of investment when all around us had done so is how we find ourselves repeating the same mistakes as the last two under Wilder's stewardship. Is it merely coincidence or is it down to the fact that bland, negative, slow tempo football will only get you so far, but it won't get you over the finishing line. This has been proven time and time again - look at our own history for the past 3 years. This is still very much Wilder's team that have been coached and trained to play a certain way from the moment they arrived through the door. Changing that mentality in the short space of time he was given was a nigh on impossible task for Waddock - especially with a squad of average League 2 players. By the time he arrived the club was stagnant, rapidly falling down the table with confidence falling by the game. The wheels had well untruly fallen off and the rot had set in. Waddock will ring in the changes this summer. He has to. First thing he should do is appoint Kitson as a coach, promote Chrissy Allen to assistant manager. Then get rid of the stupid warm up drill the players are made to do before each half - what is the point in that? It certainly doesn't get the players fired up and ready to play a game of football. Then he needs to bring in some players with the ability to string more than one pass together, add a bit of steel and guile to the midfield and hardest of all bring in a couple of strikers who are exactly that. One thing for sure, it's going to be an interesting summer. Manor Born
  • Score: 2

8:08am Mon 28 Apr 14

hairydean says...

The Good Ship Hardy wrote:
BenkiuGuasu wrote:
hairydean wrote:
I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from.
Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries.
Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up .
Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation.
So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo.
Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table.
Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place.
I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying.
Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go
Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract.
As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary
Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted
Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated.
Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up.
The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always.
In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.
Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post.
Plenty of U's fans wanted Wilder out even when they were going well. Great post I agree but please let us all know where you can find that very rich owner
Accrington has one so too have many others the fact is Stevenage spent a load off money over Xmas prob close to a million £300.000 on one player how can they do that and we cant? You have to speculate to accumulate obviously our chairman refuses to consider that an option
[quote][p][bold]The Good Ship Hardy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: I've checked stats waddock 1 win in 7 games 6 loses = 3 points. Full squad vertualy to choose from. Lewis 3 WIns 4 draws in 11 games = 13 points fewer players to choose from and players coming back from injuries. Wilder 46 points from 27 games for oxford with horrendous amount off injuries and having to use Inexperienced players due to develoment squad being our back up . Wilder 27 points from 18 games for Northampton for a team that had 5 loan players added to a side destined to be relegated.those loan players haven't been playing hardly so relying on players looking at relegation. So lets put this into prospective. Under waddock 3 points in 7games average points over season 21points relegation defo. Lewis 13 points from 11 games average over season = 54 points so safe and just below mid table. Wilder 46+27=73 points with one game to play with one team full off injuries other team low on confdence and relegation bound. This is points that could get automatic promotion defo play off place. I thought and believed wilder wasn't either getting the backing from the chairman forcing to use the development squad which was inexperienced or his back up off coaches either push the players to hard making players injuryies more likely and more regular. This may be the cause for team selection differcult to stabilize nether the less these players who was or wasnt playing because off injuries assumed 47 points in 27 games if that ratio off points was sustained then we would be looking at another 31 points from a injury hit side and inexperienced side = 78 points with a game to play for which would put us in automatic spot or defo play off. With chance off automatic spot . 31 points from us in 18 games isn't brilliant and wouldn't mean were a great team 45 plus points make you an outstanding team not forgetting in the last 18 games Lewis and waddock has had more first team players available than wilder and the young players were more experienced than under wilder so .heres the outcome off what im saying. Waddock hasn't turned the team around its got worse. has to go Lewis for all his commitment. To oxford united isn't a perfect caretaker manager so therefore new coaching staff should be brought in with a new manager. As from next week then he can keep who he wants and get rid off anyone he doesn't constable should get another year. so can be rewarded with his dream of top oxford scorer I history for all his commitment. Wright should be given a contract. As for wilder he has proved that he can pick up players under performing and get them playing ie early oxford days and Northampton. Her was forced to use a development squad inexperience they should be the players for the future they should have been used limited and not regular unless theywere ready Williams was ready i feel others not. So the chairman should shoulder the blame over wilder on the way the team had to play inexperienced players when injuries mounted up strengthening the squad was the most important thing he needed to do. Not reduce the quality. Coaches should be blamed for injuries,and fittness. so there not good enough. How can a chairman not offer a manager that has got you in a promotion position that is the devil you know a contract but give a contract off 2.5 years to another not proven to our squad and at a valuable time off season and take 11 games to get a manager in sorry i feel wilder would have got us promoted if he was given backing from the chairman and a contract the development squad was a total waste off money that could have been used to strengthen the squad throughout the season.when needed it as we did. The coaches should have been replaced and fitness coach they are obviously causing more harm than good.. Summary Wilder contract should have been given. And would have been promoted Coaches have to go and fittness coach. New technical coaches need to be instated. Playing staff need to be full off pride and passion and strength pace and desire to win we need fighters 10 players that tackle and get the ball and nether give up. The chairman needs to go and replaced with some consortium or very rich owner stadium purchased or new one built money always available to strengthen the squad always. In return were have supporters flood back, promotion,desire and ambition to win and reach the top. Were we want to be were the new chairman would want us to be and the players making us proud.[/p][/quote]Pretty obvious really, but very true. Good post.[/p][/quote]Plenty of U's fans wanted Wilder out even when they were going well. Great post I agree but please let us all know where you can find that very rich owner[/p][/quote]Accrington has one so too have many others the fact is Stevenage spent a load off money over Xmas prob close to a million £300.000 on one player how can they do that and we cant? You have to speculate to accumulate obviously our chairman refuses to consider that an option hairydean
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12:46am Tue 29 Apr 14

ox14 yellows says...

Er, have you looked at the bottom of L1 recently to see how far Stevenage's spending got them this season ?? - all the way back down to L2 next season !
Er, have you looked at the bottom of L1 recently to see how far Stevenage's spending got them this season ?? - all the way back down to L2 next season ! ox14 yellows
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3:20pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Sid Snakey says...

@hairydean

"You have to speculate to accumulate obviously our chairman refuses to consider that an option".

Lenegan is in the red to the tune of £6M at Oxford United. That's quite a lot of speculation.

We are still screwed thanks to giving our valuable real-estate in Headington to one of the few Chairmen who had a clear plan of how to make their money in football and then get out.

Thanks to that, Lenegan now has to hand over 500K each year to Kassam for the privilege of playing in that horrible stadium, and also forego a good chunk of income stream.

I wonder, what's Lenegan's plan?
@hairydean "You have to speculate to accumulate obviously our chairman refuses to consider that an option". Lenegan is in the red to the tune of £6M at Oxford United. That's quite a lot of speculation. We are still screwed thanks to giving our valuable real-estate in Headington to one of the few Chairmen who had a clear plan of how to make their money in football and then get out. Thanks to that, Lenegan now has to hand over 500K each year to Kassam for the privilege of playing in that horrible stadium, and also forego a good chunk of income stream. I wonder, what's Lenegan's plan? Sid Snakey
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